How bout all you Clarkies just drop the middleman and vote Bush now

[Terwilliger]

OBVIOUSLY Dean can't win, and will, in fact (from what I've read in Calrkie sentiments) lose if he is the Dem party nominee.

So y'all just quityerbitchin' now and go donate money to George Bush.

[maddezmom]

1. you are joking right?

[eleny]

2. And you can go pound sand

[Kosmos Mariner]

3. Why don't you donate to CLark?

:eyes:


:dem:

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[SahaleArm]

5. Yes master I will support Dean...

Come on, we'll all be voting Democrat come November.

[goobergunch]

6. Many Clark supporters are loyal Democrats that haven't said that (n/t)

[Terwilliger]

9. many

many have said that

Many are saying it as I type this.

No, these folks have convinced themselves that Dean is a loser, and if they're going to act this way throughout the rest of the campaign, the Dems WILL lose.

[goobergunch]

26. Your post was directed at *all* Clark supporters (n/t)

[oasis]

7. Include me among those who aren't inspired by Dean, but he'll get my vote.

[Cooley Hurd]

8. I understand the anger over this "electability" claim...

...but you should read Skinner's thread before starting a thread like this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=879675

Let's rise above this and remember - ABB!

[mikehiggins]

10. because we want Bush out and we don't think your guy can do it.

How many times do you have to be told?

We will support Dean to the last drop of blood, just like the troopers at the Little Big Horn, but at the end of the road, baring Divine Intervention, he will lose and America will suffer because of it.

To us, it's just that simple. He's a great guy in some ways but there is no reason to think he's going to win against George Bush.

[Terwilliger]

14. fine...forget it now then

why put in all the energy? If the nom is sealed up after a primary or two, just go work for the Bush campaign since Dean won't win

[wndycty]

20. I get criticized for using the cult reference. . .

. . .but it is perfectly ok for Terwilliger to say that the Clark supporters are all going to vote for Bush if Dean wins the nomination? Oh thats right, I am the one that lacks class. I wonder what would have prompted me to say such things. . .it must be the respectful way us Clark supporters have been treated.

[goobergunch]

24. IMHO, it isn't

See post #6.

[indigo32]

In truthfullness Ter didn't say Clark supporters were all going to

vote for Bush... he expressed frustration over the whole Dean is a lost cause arguement. I wouldn't have phrased it the way he did... but I understand it.

[Terwilliger]

I'm not big on phrasing

:D

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

21. they don't want Bush, better off going independent or third party

Taking your point at face value, they wouldn't bother supporting Bush - since the whole point of a Clark candidacy is to get Bush out - they would be better off going independent or third party.

Frankly, with the way the Democrats drop to their knees every time the corporate media tells them too, I wouldn't be suprised if they just gave press to the Clark Bar Party and ignored the Democrats - hell, half the Democrats get ignored now and the rest don't give a shit.

[wndycty]

27. What makes you think we would abandon the party if I guy does not win?

I would be more concerned about other candidates' supporters but not General Clark's.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

41. I don't think Clark nor his fans would abandon the party

I'm just saying that the Clark people I know - and Clark has been my 1-3 choice for a long time - would not vote for Bush, under any circumstances.

There are many truthful things to criticize Clark about, and his fans on DU (including me) but supporting Bush is NOT one of them.

[_NorCal_D_]

32. It will be fascinating to see

what happens at the end of the primaries, no matter who wins the nomination. I for one will not be voting third party.

[BootinUp]

46. Thats a neat encoded message

thankfully I lost my code book...;)

[wndycty]

11. Damn if I were to post something like this. . .

. . .I will never hear the end of it. No my friend I am quite happy with ABB and I will do everything in my power to make Clark that candidate, but if for some reason he does not win I will support whomever the Democrats nominate.

[Terwilliger]

23. well, some of your buddies wouldn't waste their money on Dems if Dean wins

so....I guess they don't support the Dem nominee...and, worse, believe he'll lose

Do you believe Howard Dean will lose?

[PurityOfEssence]

12. So anyone who disagrees with you is out to destroy you, huh?

Get a grip. The Clark-barkers are just the karmic backlash to the Deanie-weenies. Dean started by telling everyone what turncoats and lily-livers everyone else was, and has the silliness to get huffy when called to account for his own actions.

Some of your opponents may actually believe what they say. They may be sincerely concerned of your candidates viability. I'll bet that they'll mostly suck it up and even fight much harder should your guy get the nomination because of that fear of vulnerability. I hope that, if this comes to pass, you'll have the decency to let them know how noble they are when you meet them on the barricades in the upcoming general election. To say that they'd support Bush is revolting. To say that anyone who questions your guy's vulnerability is the enemy is just pissy.

That's what George Bush believes: "you're either with us or against us."

[Melodybe]

17. Right on! STOP THE CANDIDATE BASHING NOW!

We are all in this together, end of story.

[Terwilliger]

30. I don't support Dean

I'm just trying to figure out why these staunch (so-called) Democrats have said (and some have said) that they wouldn't support Dean after he gets the nom because they don't think he'll win.

Like I said...why wait? Just vote for Bush now.

[INTELBYTES]

13. Okey Dokey!

Who do I make the check out to?
:tinfoilhat:

[LiviaOlivia]

15. From a Still Undecided Voter

Is this really necessary?

[liberalmuse]

16. Wait until the Clintons endorse Clark...

YIKES! As a Deanie, I promise not to be an a-hole (or rather, I promise not to be a bigger a-hole than normal) when this happens.

[SahaleArm]

28. Clinton won't endorse until after the nomination *nm*

[Terwilliger]

48. so then Clinton is endorsing Clark?

what flipping difference does it make when he does it?

I mean, since you know Clainton is going to endorse Clark...isn't that undue influence on Democrats? Him telling you how to vote???

[Wonk]

18. Your looking to give the mods a chance to test the new time out feature,

right? :think:

[goobergunch]

34. Check out his post in that thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=879675&mesg_id=879982&page=

:shrug:

[_NorCal_D_]

19. Oh brother...

How eloquent! How concise! Time for me to drink some more Kool-aid!
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

[prolesunited]

25. You know I don't have a candidate yet

but to compare Dean to a mass-murdering cultist leader is a bit over the top. Wouldn't you admit? :eyes:

[wndycty]

38. Proles it is over the top. . .

. . .but we are sick and G$d D$mned tired of being accused of not being true Democrats. Believe I have regretful gone over the top, most recently yesterday, but its not like I wake up and say to myself I must go attack Dean supporters. I am going to try and do my best to not take the low road (there is absolutely no way I can claim the high road at this point--sorry) but I am not going to sit here and take it either.

[_NorCal_D_]

47. Of course

The Kool-aid reference doesn’t involve Dean. It relates to blind allegiance to any candidate. (Particularly Bush B-))

[murielm99]

22. Why are you here?

:wtf:

You have nothing better to do??

[Terwilliger]

33. pay attention, now

:freak:

[BootinUp]

29. I would sooner fall on my sword

than vote for the pretender...

I am probably guilty of some of the rhetoric Terwilliger refers to. The fact is that to win this upcoming election we must strive to push each of our candidates through the sharpener of the primaries, until one emerges as a suitable weapon for defeating Bush and his minions. So now let's carry on towards our common objective.

(sorry for the military language, I am feeling oppressed by my government.)

:grr:

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[neuvocat]

35. You first.

Go ahead. Send your money to Bush and set the example by putting your money where your mouth is. Go on!

[PatGund]

36. Not only no, but hell no.....

I'd sooner eat rat poison than vote for Bush.

Do I think that Clark is the best one for the job? Yes.

Will I support Dean if he gets the nomination? Yes.

Do my Deanie friends think that Dean is the best one for the job? Yes.

Will they support Clark if he gets the nomination? All of them have said yes, they will.

May I ask why the hell you're doing Karl Rove's job for him? We all should be making damm sure that no matter which person gets the nomination, that we all support that person. All this sniping does is hurt *all* of us.

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[neverforget]

39. The continued harshness of the GD forum continues.......

....I can't wait until the election is over.

[Droopy]

40. You sure know how to make friends, Terwilliger! n/t

[Selwynn]

42. Congrats - you made my ignore list in a single post.

Ta ta.

[Padraig18]

43. I don't see that happening, Ter.

I have the distinct impression that the VAST majority of Clark supporters are ABB, as are the vast majority of EVERY candidate's supporters here at DU. :shrug:

[Terwilliger]

45. you must not be reading what some of these people are saying about Dean

and their support should he end up with the nomination

[mzmolly]

49. I hear you T...

:toast:

[Moderator]

50. Locking

Inflammatory and not conducive to discussion.

DU Moderator