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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 09:59 PM
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Nominee Support does not ammount to a zero-sum game.
It is very likely that the 2004 elections will be an ambivalent experience for me. On one hand I weep and rage over the horrible devastation cause around the world and to this great land by four years of the worst, most dishonest and tyrannical and anti-American administration that I've ever known in my lifetime.

Yet on the other hand, I have a candidate that I deeply admire, who inspires me personally, who articulates his message in a way that stirs my heart, who rekindles in me a feeling of genuine patriotism that I felt was long dead - and that candidate is trailing in the polls. By all pragmatic measurements, a different candidate is making a strong showing to win the party nomination. And this candidate is a person who does not articulate his message in a way that stirs my heart, he does not inspire me to anything, in fact he turns me off completely. I don't enjoy listening to him, and I disagree with many of his past positions.

So what does that mean? It means that I'll go through yet enough election year where my first choice doesn't win and where I don't feel particularly warm and fuzzy about the alternative. I'll get to go through another election year where I don't get to feel emotionally involved in the process. I won't get to feel misty-eyed when the candidate speaks. I won't get to feel inspired or rekindled in my passion. I won't get to feel like I love my country again or that I genuinely think my candidate is the singular best man to lead the country. All I'll get to do is breathe a sign and say, "anybody but Bush."

But here's the thing, and there's just no way around this fact: politics is never a zero sum game. If Wesley Clark were to get the party nomination, during the course of the campaign it is absolutely certain that things would emerge about Clark that I personally disagreed with. Clark would have some positions that weren't perfectly aligned with mine. There is no such thing as the perfect candidate, no matter how blind some people force themselves to be.

In the end, its ridiculous to approach candidate support for the standpoint of "I'll only support the candidate that I fully agree with on everything, that I fully like personally, professionally, politically, emotionally, etc." That will never happen. That's why the question should never be "who is the perfect candidate?" The question should be, "who is the best candidate?"

Right now is the time for people to support the Democrat they believe is the best candidate. And I'm not ashamed of expressing why I believe Clark is the best candidate, and no matter how hard the other guys try to quash dissent, I make no apology for pointing out the concerns I have about other candidates. I *am* afraid. I am not ashamed to tell you that I am genuinely afraid that we may lose the election if we run the wrong candidate against Bush. The overconfidence displayed on these forums terrifies me. I do not believe that Bush will lose in a landslide. I do not believe that Bush's chance at reelection is on oxygen.

I thank god that his poll numbers are lower than they were in January, but at the same time, I'm smart enough to realize that Bush has managed to convince the people to go along with him while he strips away civil liberties that have been guarded as sacred for the last 200+ years. He has convinced the people to go alone with him into a war the reasons for which were totally fabricated and never convincing even befor they were discredited. He has convinced the people to go alone with massive breaks on the rich at the expense of the poor, and convinced the people to go alone with just about every treacherous and mind-boggling thing he has set his mind to. He has some of the most talented and sophisticated political strategists on the planet working in his corner, and he has the biggest advantage of them all in this society - he has ten times more money than anyone else.

I don't believe Bush is nearly as weak of a foe as many of us blindly believe. And because of this, I am extremely terrified of running the wrong candidate against him.

That being said, this is the time to make that case. This is the time to stand up and proudly say "I support my candidate" and yes, as much as many of you hate it, this is also the time to say "I don't support your candidate for these reasons, let me try to persuade you."

But when its all said and done, and the Democratic nominee is chosen, I understand one important truth - politics is not a zero-sum game. Every candidate is going to have something that I don't like about him/her or something that I disagree with. The REAL question is, of the candidates running, which candidate is best - which candidate has the most net positions that I agree with, which candidate has the most notches in the plus column. In the primaries, that person is Wesley Clark for me. In the general election, based on every thing I see so far, that person will be any Democrat who receives the nomination, including the infamous Howard Dean. Now, I don't agree with Dean on several issues, and I personally don't like Dean's style at all - it is an absolute turn off to me in every way and doesn't make me feel good personally at all. However, when comparing the platform of Dean to the platform of Bush, the person of Dean to the person of Bush and the potential of Dean to the potential for Bush, to me the choice is obvious - Dean is the net-winner.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to make these kinds of compromises. But this is not a perfect world, and in this world Dean is the better choice over Bush. But dont you expect me to act like the primaries are over now, or start supporting Dean one millisecond before the candidate that I really admire and support is no longer an option. Until that time, I'll continue to express what I like about Clark and why I support Clark over every other candidate until I'm blue in the face. And I would expect those of you who support other candidates to do nothing less...

..now if we can just keep it civil. :)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:01 PM
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1. Im all for supporting our candidates, I just resent when numerous
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 10:01 PM by mzmolly
threads are dedicated to trashing any of them. *especially our front runners* Shit Free Republic couldn't ask for better TRASH!
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:12 PM
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3. I think there is a balance between un-statesman like trashing
And honest debate over who the right and most qualified candidate should be.

And I've seen both on the boards. I've seen threads questioning whether my candidate, Clark is the best choice, and those threads have been fair and reasonable - promoting honest discussion, even though I might not agree. And I have seen the same for all the candidates. But I have seen other threads, especially for Dean as the frontrunner (and because, in my opinion he is such a polarizing figure) which have been absolutely ridiculous and hateful, serving now useful purpose, contributing nothing to good dialogue and making us look weak.

We can agree that those latter kind of threads are bad. But the former? Definately not. :)
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:02 PM
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2. Thank you!
:thumbsup:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:12 PM
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4. You had me up until
you said something about civility.

In a perfect DU it would be as placid as a farm pond here. There would be no candidate bashing.........

Oh what the hell. I was going to try for a little parody of your post but it's just too good for me to make light of. Thoughtful and nicely written post. Good luck to Gen. Clark.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:15 PM
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5. Yeah, but I just can't bring my self to banish civility to ...
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 10:15 PM by Selwynn
..the domain of the "perfect world scenario" :)

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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:37 PM
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6. I also agree with you about not underestimating Bush
I've seen on several occasions where people say things basically to the effect that unseating Bush will be easy. Well, he's got some pretty smart people working for him and he's going to have a boatload of money available to tear down the Dem nominee.

Confidence in your candidate is a good thing, but overconfidence can be a weakness. We should prepare for this election like it's going to be a prize fight and not take anything for granted.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 11:44 PM
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8. I believe it will be a long hard fight, that we can win....
..if we're smart, and don't do anything stupid! :)
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:49 PM
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7. I've never voted for a winner in presidential primary...
...but that did not stop me from supporting the eventual nominee. Let's keep our eyes on the prize folks -- unseating bushco. Any one of our candidates will be hugely better than he.

We cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If I find a candidate that I agree with 80% of the time I am estatic but even when I don't find that candidate (which is most of the time) I go to work to our team.

This election will not be won by voting alone. Vote your heart this primary but then work like hell for whoever the eventual nominee is.

If everyone on DU gets the hell away for their keyboard from time to time and knocks on doors, makes phone calls, donates money, gets off their ass and volunteers for the the democratic nominee we can win this war. It is to damn important to lose and I refuse to sit this one out whoever wins the primary.
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