I just saw a Lieberman ad attacking Howard Dean on TV (NH station)

[KaraokeKarlton]

Since I live along the VT/NH border, my local news station is shared with NH.

The Liberman attack ad came on and annoyed the crap out of me. And then, lo and behold the very next ad spot was filled by a positive Dean ad that set the record straight!

All I can say is Wow! The Dean campaign is so smart and good. They are buying the ad spots right after commercials that attack Dean to counter it! This neutralizes the attacks because Dean gets the last word. I love it!

[Cha]

1. Can you imagine being in the nucleus of

our campaign? They must be so Quick and Superfly Smart!

[pruner]

3. Joe Trippi is a Jedi Master

:)

[slinkerwink]

6. that he is

:-)

[KittyWampus]

20. Is That Why The Confed Flag & Locked Files Were Allowed To Fester?

?

[Don Claybrook]

26. I have an answer for you

And I hope this clears things up for you.

The nucleotide structure can be broken down into 2 parts. The sugar-phosphate backbone and the base. All nucleotides share the sugar-phosphate backbone. Nucleotide polymers are formed by linking the monomer units together using an oxygen on the phosphate, and a hydroxyl group on the sugar.

A, T, G and C are capable of being linked together to form a long chain. The 3'-hydroxyl group on the ribose unit, reacts with the 5'-phosphate group on it's neighbor to form a chain.

The base on each nucleotide is different, but they still show similarities. adenine (A) and guanine (G) are purines, notice the two ring structure, with the differences in the molecules coming in the groups attached to the ring. Likewise, cytosine (C) and thymine (T) and uracil (U) are pyrimidines and share a similar structure, but differ in their side groups. See Figure 1.

Base Pairing
If two strands of nucleic acid are adjacent to one another. The bases along the polymer can interact with complementary bases in the other strand.As shown in Figure 3, adenine is capable of forming hydrogen bonds with thymine and cytosine can base pair with guanine. Adenine forms two hydrogen bonds with thymine, cytosine forms 3 with guanine. The G to C pair is 33% stronger than the A to T pair due to the extra hydrogen bond.

Cells contain two strands of DNA that are exact mirrors of each other. When correctly aligned, A can pair with T and G can pair with C. Because these strands are mirrors of each other, the amount of A is equal to the amount of T and the amount of C is equal to the amount of G in any double stranded DNA molecule. In solution, the two strands will usually find each other and form a double helix. This reaction is favorable because of the numerous hydrogen bonds that can be formed between the complementary bases. The DNA molecule can stretch for millions of base pairs and the DNA sizes of organisms can vary greatly. Note however that the size of the DNA genome is not always a measure of how advanced an organism is, unless you think newts (genome size 19,000,000 kb) are more advanced than humans (genome size 3,500,000 kb).

The entire molecule is a linear sequence of bases. The typical E. coli cell has 4.6 x 106 bases, this would make a strand of DNA 1400 µm long, but E. coli is only 2-3 µm long. How does it fit?. The size of bacterial DNA is halved by the circular structure of the DNA, but much more is needed of course. A series of strategies are employed by microbes to compact the DNA, yet leave it accessible for its necessary functions.

The relaxed circular chromosome, with a diameter of appoximately 430 µm, is first segregated into about 50 chromosomal domains by DNA-protein interactions with nucleotide binding proteins such as HU, IHF and H-NS. There is sufficient HU protein in the cell to bind the DNA every 300 to 400 bp and these protiens are thought to act in a fashion similar to the histones in eucaryotic organisms. An intact chromosome with its full complement of DNA binding proteins will result in a particle with a maximum diameter of 17 µm.

The DNA is further compacted by twisting the DNA in each domain around itself, called supercoiling.

[slinkerwink]

2. ha, that's great!

[Cha]

4. And thanks for reporting this....it's interesting to hear

stuff like that ..that one could only see on DU or in Vermont or New Hampshire! :)

[slinkerwink]

5. I wonder if they've done that to the RNC ads in IA and NH?

[Cha]

15. Indubitably! n/t

[KaraokeKarlton]

16. I haven't seen those ones yet

But I worked a lot of hours and was out alot when those started. I'm guessing they did the same thing, though.

[maxanne]

7. it's a shame

that all some candidates have to offer is beating up Dean. They'd do much better to present themselves in a positive light. I think this is going to backfire on them.

[slinkerwink]

8. I agree

[KaraokeKarlton]

14. doesn't it backfire every year, maxanne?

I don't know about you, but I get so sick of the negative political ads. The closer the election gets the worse the ads get and the more often they're playing. It's like EVERY commercial spot is a political ad. The people up here can't be much different in their reactions than I am. The negative ads are a HUGE turnoff.

[caledesi]

9. Your 15 minutes are up Joe. Go home!

[pruner]

10. NH is his new home

he's renting an apartment there for his entire family… including his 89 year old mother who he trots out to solicit the senior vote.

[Scott Lee]

12. It's where he'll undergo reeducation by the GOP once he splits.

They have a rigorous camp there for one time Democrats being trained to live in The Borg.

[Dr.Phool]

19. Go home Joe

I saw Lieberman last week-end at the Florida convention, and he was about as inspiring as a bowl of cold oatmeal. Or one of my dogs piles I just cleaned up out in the back yard. His signature moment was coming out against violent video games.

This imbicile sits on the board of foundations and commissions with Ralph Reed for christs sake.

I had to pay $275 for meal tickets at the convention, because they never told you who would be at which one. Joe spoke at the convention Sunday morning, and it was his turn to speak at Sundays brunch. I gave the ticket away, drove back to Clearwater and ordered a pizza. Sat. night was much better with speeches by Edwards, Kerry, Clark, Kucinich and Dean, with Dean and Kucinich for dinner.

Howard stole the show! The whole convention!

[Demobrat]

11. That's great, but

the way media time is bought, I'm pretty sure it was just a lucky coincidence. It could just as well have gone the other way. Unless....somebody at that TV station likes us!

[pruner]

13. with the amount of media Dean is buying…

it's possible he's getting some sort of preferential placement.

[Demobrat]

18. Even if he was

I don't think he would get to pick where his spot went in relation to somebody else's. I'm in advertising, on the creative side though, so I could certainly be wrong, but the way it works is you buy time on a certain show. Other than that, it's up to the gods. Listen, don't get me wrong, the Dean team is brilliant and if anybody could pull it off they could, but this time I have more of a karma-is-with-us feeling than a we're-running-circles-around-them-again one.

[pruner]

22. I'm in advertising too…

but I work in print media and really have no idea the way broadcast media buying works.

:shrug:

[Demobrat]

27. You buy time on a show, send your tapes to the stations

and cross your fingers.

[KaraokeKarlton]

23. Actually, I've seen this same commercial a couple of times now

And i'm pretty sure that the Dean ad did come on during the next spot. I'm going to pay closer attention to the ads and see if it happens every time.

I'm guessing that with NH going through this every election year due to the special attention it gets that the media would capitalize on it by charging a higher rate to play a candidates ads whenever they want them aired, including strategically placed to defend against attack ads.

[slinkerwink]

17. I hope so!

;-)

[dajabr]

21. I used to buy national spot TV & Radio a few years ago...

And, luckily we never had more then one political client (political season is very difficult all around).

I'm a little rusty, but I think candidates can only buy "Run of Schedule," kind of like throwing darts at the clock between 6AM-12 Midnight.

I wouldn't be suprised if there was a Deniac in the Traffic Dept. of the station "helping" with some strategic placement of the spots. :-)

[slinkerwink]

24. lol

[KaraokeKarlton]

25. It's a small area so that might be it too

But I've yet to see any other political ad coming right after Dean's. I don't watch TV all the time, either, though.

[Demobrat]

28. That's what I suspect.

A little "undercover" work going on at the station level.

[Scott Lee]

29. Hmmm, not at the station I work for.

We have a clock we abide by and it's absolutely stringent as to what goes where. We have to fax this clock sheet to the station manager, the customers and the production staff and they had to physically check off everything as it's run. If something wasn't run at the right clock time, switched or nixed without the express permission of the manager, head of production or client, somebody could easily lose their job.

One other thing. With politicians, there is no credit buying. It's all cash on the barrell head.

[Demobrat]

30. Who decides what goes where?

?

[dajabr]

33. I think Scott Lee will back me up on this...

Everything was going Digital when I left the Media biz...

Spot placement is controlled by computer based on the parameters the client pays for (specific or time periods cost more or less depending on the rating - broad time periods cost less).

It organizes things so: all your spots run evenly through the week, car ads don't run back to back, strip club ad doesn't follow a spot for a day-care center, etc.

[dajabr]

31. "there is no credit buying"

Part of the difficulties I alluded to above!

Not suprisingly, politicians are apt to "skip out on the check."

:hi:

[slinkerwink]

32. interesting

;-)