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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:32 AM
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Poll question: What is your ultimate goal or perfect scenario for American politics.
What is it you actually want to be the end goal? Many people complain about bush-lite democrats, many complain about greens, or dean or clark or whoever. Many people think the way they think is the only way to think...how do you want politics to work?
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:35 AM
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1. I think it is important
in a very real sense for the Republican party to be redeemed. It is in no way a conservative party. While I don't agree with lots of conservative philosophy, a true conservative party would be a good counterbalance. Competition breeds ingenuity. The Republican party must be saved from its fascist wing which is in control now. This is a solid fact.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:39 AM
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3. I have heard it said
That a gridlocked government is a good government.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:04 AM
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6. Hi commonguymd!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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hedgetrimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:36 AM
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2. a government by, for and of the people... direct democracy and a
whole shit load of observers for every election because each one has a potential for "fixing"
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:40 AM
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4. Coalition of every country with an army disarms US, PNAC

BFEE, most of Congress, CEOs of energy, defense co's hauled off to the Hague, US voted out of UN, declared UN protectorate under the supervision of a coalition of every country US currently has "operatives" in, Israel treated as an outlying territory of US, also disarmed, etc, every US troop brought home, put to work repairing infrastructure, Cuba sends experts to develop health care system, Chavez organizes a coalition of international monitors to oversee and hold universal franchise elections, polling to take place over a 10 day period, take the polls to the people, thumbprint, if you live here you vote, Right to Housing, Living Wage amended into the Constitution -

and then the second week.....
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:40 AM
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5. Choice Four (the one leading so far) is the point I was trying to make
earlier today with the poll on who's your favority poster.
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:51 AM
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7. I've always thought the best arrangement
Would be for liberals and progressives to control the government, but with a conservative minority (I mean genuinely conservative, not radical Christian fundamentalist or economic darwinist) that would be strong enough to apply the brakes so change is gradual and measured and the excesses that occur when one party has too much power (like today) are checked. Conservatives have no business controlling a democratic republic that is supposed to be a beacon and an example to humankind, because the inherent momentum of conservativism is to stagnate or move in reverse, and America needs to be always moving forward, getting a little bit better, a little bit freer, and a little bit smarter every day.

It goes without saying that a prerequisite of such a system is, as other posters have pointed out, rational and honest debate rather than the cheap, virulent sound-bite pushing of emotional hot-buttons that saturates American political discourse today.
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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:26 AM
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8. The 40 Year Plan
In 2004, the Dems take the WH, regain a slight majority in the Senate, and narrow the margin in the House.

The Dems continue to use a centrist strategy of social liberalism paired with financial respinsibility to appeal to abraod swath of voters in the muddy middle. In the 2006 mid-term, they widen the margin in the Senate and naroow the House margin even further, or gain a small majority there.

In 2008, the WH is retained, and a legislative majority is widened and maintained. At the same time, a small number independant or third-party candidates capture Congressional seats.

Over the course of the next 8 election cycles, the Dems appeal to the broad center swath undercuts the GOP and highlights its shift to the far right. The GOP becomes a party of the far right in representational numbers as well as in practice, unable to garner more than 20% support nationwide (if that). The further left voters, unhappy with the Dems centrist positions, push a more liberal party into prominence (maybe the Greens, maybe something new). For a few of cycles, there will be a split of about 50-60% in the middle, and then the roughly 20% on each "extreme". Voters will soon, however, become wary of the continued dominance of the Dems. Conservative voters, who still find the Dems too liberal, but the GOP too far right, will begin to look for options in the "right-of-center" area. On the left, those put off by the far left party's economicslly socialist polisies, but still wanting a greater degree of social liberlism than the Dems provide, will start forming a "left-of-center" option. During this entire period, the dominance of the Dems will move the entire political compass subtley to the left. By 2044, there will be 5 viable, vibrant, roughly equally represented parties in the US. The GOP will still hug what becomes the far rght, although the run of years will moderate that right-wing until it resembles the John McCain of today rather than the Rick Santorum. Something like the Libertarians will provide a more moderate conservative option. The dems will occupy the now-shrunken middle. Something like the Greens will have the moderate left position, and the far left will an effectively socialist party.

By this time, I will be 74 years old. Hoepfully medical advances will have allowed me to enjoy the new political field in America.
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