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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:19 AM
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Soldiers at the Bush/Turkey photo-op were pre-screened. Some turned away
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57870-2003Dec11.html

WP: A Baghdad Thanksgiving's Lingering Aftertaste


By Dana Milbank

Stars and Stripes, the Pentagon-authorized newspaper of the U.S. military, is bucking for a court-martial.

When last we checked in on Stripes, it was reporting on a survey it did of troops in Iraq, finding that half of those questioned described their units' moral as low and their training as insufficient and said they did not plan to reenlist.

With the Pentagon just recovering from that, Stars and Stripes is blowing the whistle on President Bush's Thanksgiving visit to Baghdad, saying the cheering soldiers who met him were pre-screened and others showing up for a turkey dinner were turned away.

The newspaper, quoting two officials with the Army's 1st Armored Division in an article last week, reported that "for security reasons, only those preselected got into the facility during Bush's visit. . . . The soldiers who dined while the president visited were selected by their chain of command, and were notified a short time before the visit."

The paper also published a letter to the editor from Sgt. Loren Russell, who wrote of the heroism of his soldiers and then added: "magine their dismay when they walked 15 minutes to the Bob Hope Dining Facility, only to find that they were turned away from their evening meal because they were in the wrong unit. . . . They understand that President Bush ate there and that upgraded security was required. But why were only certain units turned away?"

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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:20 AM
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1. Wow...
Too cool!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:24 AM
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2. more and more lies
Every time we turn around, they lie and lie and lie.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:25 AM
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3. Foul Fowl

Yep, these "brillant" photo ops by Karl Rove et al.

They look good going in, but over time when the truth leaks out they get smellier and smellier and smellier.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:25 AM
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4. stars n stripes ain't a bush fan it seems. what happened to that
"the military loves king george' bull hockey?

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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:29 AM
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12. Expect a change at S&S...


I expect that they'll be seeing a change in their management and editorial staff real soon.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:29 AM
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5. I posted this in the other Stars & Stripes thread
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 08:29 AM by Catch22Dem
Located here

I like the part about the absolute series of fuck ups on Air Force One. Jesus, this group of morans can't get ANYTHING right.

When I was in Jordan, I got to meet King Hussein. We all did. They told us he was going to be there, and we all went outside to the main road thru "tent city" and he must have shaken every hand there. He was really personable. They didn't screen us or anything like that. Of course, none of us minded being over there either. This was a training deal and the Jordanians were some of the nicest people I ever met. Times sure were different then.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:52 AM
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6. Go Stars & Stripes!
I wonder what their criteria was for pre-selecting the people to be at the dinner?

I have to say I'm impressed that the military newspaper is blowing the whistle on this instead of just going with the flow of "we have to support everything that Bush does and says." I'm very impressed by this. :)
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:36 AM
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13. If they had political criteria for deciding who got in then that means
there has to be some operation similar to what the Soviets used to have where each military unit has a "political officer" who maintains criteria for what is politically correct and rates the various personnel for their adherence to the criteria. No other way it could be done. So this president has instituted measures in the military similar to what Soviet-era Russia maintained. We are way down a worm hole here.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:28 AM
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7. So far there have been two letters in Stripes that have blasted this visit
Probably more on the way...

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=19144


So the boss came to visit us on Thanksgiving, under wraps and under the American flag. Thanks for coming. Oh
thank you, kind leader, merciful leader, for taking one day out of your busy schedule to visit us. The shepherd
looking over his flock. Thanks for making the sacrifice. God knows we're making one. Re-election is coming up,
but that had nothing to do with it, now did it?

I remember your victorious landing on the ship. Oh how all those then alive, and now dead, would love to sit
down next to you, cutting their families' turkeys and filling the empty seats at the tables. Leader of the free
world, be our guest at the head of our table. Or would you like to sit in one of the many empty seats left by the
war? There's plenty of room. Enough turkey and stuffing to go around. Fat and happy, delirious and exhausted.
That's how I feel.

In a hurry? Going so soon? Have time for questions? You sure do have time for compliments. Do you ever feel
responsible? I'm tired of this. Go back home to the ranch and tell them how happy and fulfilling the trip made you
feel.

Spc. Damian Torres
Iraq


http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=19124


Bush visit disrupted dining

As a soldier deployed in Iraq, I hear all the complaints from individuals who
think they have it worse than the next guy. I’m lucky enough to be with
soldiers who often complain among themselves, but all they expect are good
leadership and three square meals a day.

As part of the main push during major combat, our battalion was scattered all
over the battlefield. We supported other units and paved the way (and roads)
that others would use to get to the front lines. Our D9 teams helped push units
as famous as the 101st Airborne Division from Kuwait to as far as Mosul.
We took mine blasts and got shot at as we breached obstacles and cleared
roads. Again, all we asked for was leadership and three squares a day.

During the war, Meals, Ready to Eat were naturally the way to go. They
were appreciated, even by the vegetarians who had only crackers and cheese
after the veggie meals were gone. Now that we’re stationed at Baghdad
International Airport almost 10 months later, my soldiers believe that several
comforts have finally arrived for them, like the post exchange and dining
facility. But imagine their dismay when they walked 15 minutes to the Bob
Hope Dining Facility, only to find that they were turned away from their
evening meal because they were in the wrong unit.

The one thing that they find a requirement was denied to them. They
understand that President Bush ate there and that upgraded security was
required. But why were only certain units turned away? Why wasn’t there a
special meal for President Bush and that unit in the new dance hall adjoining
the 1st Armored Division’s band building? And all of this happened on
Thanksgiving, the best meal of the year when soldiers get a taste of home
cooking.

Were the local national servers also kept out of the building because of
security reasons? Regardless, my soldiers chose to complain among
themselves and eat MREs, even after the chow hall was reopened for “usual
business” at 9 p.m. As a leader myself, I’d guess that other measures could
have been taken to allow for proper security and still let the soldiers have their
meal.

Sgt. Loren Russell
Iraq


http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=18336&archive=true


ARLINGTON, Va. — Amid the fanfare of his surprise visit to Baghdad on Thanksgiving, some soldiers were not all
that happy with the President Bush’s pop-in, and some felt gypped out of a Thanksgiving meal.

One soldier wrote to Stars and Stripes voicing displeasure that those under his command were told that during
the president’s visit at the Baghdad International Airport for a quick meal and meet-and-greet, they weren’t
allowed in.

“Imagine dismay when they walked 15 minutes to the Bob Hope Dining Facility, only to find that they were turned
away from their evening meal because they were in the wrong unit,” wrote Sgt. Loren Russell in a letter to the
editor, published Wednesday.

For security reasons, only those pre-selected got into the facility during Bush’s visit.




This issue below interests me. See bold and ask yourself "why."



http://estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=19105

<snip>

Command Sgt. Maj. Sandra K. Townsend spoke with medical soldiers and with wounded troops Thursday at
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center.

“What they’re saying is they need more people,” Townsend said of medical troops during an interview Thursday.

<snip>

Hospitals such as Landstuhl already are at 80 percent manning and must be bolstered with Reserve and National
Guard troops to do their wartime mission, she said.

<snip>

The two leaders were unable to visit medical troops in Iraq, however, because President Bush’s
visit made it difficult to get clearance, she said.


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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:50 AM
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8. explains why "reporters" weren't allowed to talk to any troops before,
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 09:52 AM by peekaloo
during or after the "visit".

So why no photo-op with Chalabi? :mad:




edit: link to Democracy Now report

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/01/155219&mode=thread&tid=25

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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:07 AM
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9. buy-bye to Fox News?
Wasn't it Stars and Stripes or a letter to Stars and Stripes that called for the end of Fox News being piped in to the troops everyday?

Also, lebkuchen, thanks for bringing us those excerpts. Very telling.

Cher
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:35 PM
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14. Hi NJCher
That could have been...there have been a lot of troop complaints yesterday in Stripes, and FOX is the channel that has been reported in Stripes to be on the networks in the MWR tents.

However, there's a definite demand to remove the druggie from AFN:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=23302
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:19 AM
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10. Spread the truth
DUers need to send this sort of information to their local newspapers.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:23 AM
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11. No one should be surprised that Chimpy needed his props
screened.

Atmophere is important.
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