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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:42 AM
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Poll: Dean beats Bush south of Mason-Dixon line (Maryland)
Dean beats Bush in a head-to-head matchup 48% to 41% in Maryland.

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2695022/detail.html

And even though Bush's precipitous slide in job approval rating has ended, Democrat Howard Dean was favored over Bush. When asked who they would support in next year's presidential race, 48 percent chose Dean and 41 percent supported Bush. In a Gonzales poll in August, the two were tied.
<snip>

Note to Dean bashers: Maryland has 10 electoral votes while New Hampshire has 4 (See: GD screed on NH poll).
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:44 AM
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1. Not bad
for one of the most liberal, heavily Democratic states in the country.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:51 AM
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3. So much for their Dean= McGovern theory
Dean will compete and/or win in virtually all "middle ground" states-- including some Southern states-- then take NY, CA,etc. in a cakewalk.

Bush can have the rest of the Confederacy...they deserve him.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:19 AM
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11. please check out this map and do the math
actually, the map will do the math for you.

and while you are there, click on the bar above the map for some historical reference.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:44 AM
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23. Nice map
;)
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Rob in B_more Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:51 AM
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2. Maryland went for Mondale
We are one of the few in the bag states.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:35 AM
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19. Wrong
Only Minnesota and D.C. went for Mondale.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:38 AM
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20. Hi Rob in B_more!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:57 AM
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4. Maryland is to the Mason-Dixon line


what house paint is to an apple tree.
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madddog Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:16 AM
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10. I like it lol...
MD isn't very southern, no matter which side of the line it's on.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:03 AM
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5. If you think Maryland is the south....
then you haven't been eating your red beans and rice lately.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:12 AM
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7. Sorry, I prefer crabcakes, please... Truth in advertising...
I did say "...south of the Mason- Dixon line.." only. :)

But as everyone from General Lee onward knows, those Marylanders don't consider themselves too southern.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:09 AM
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6. Re: NH
Dean can win there too. The early horse race polls between Bush and Dean don't tell how the election a year from now will go. For instance, Gore was 15-20 points behind nationally in most polls up until the democratic convention. Clinton was running third at one point in 1992 behind Bush and Perot. Gore was behind by 15-points at one point in NH and lost the state by a point. A campaign has yet to be run. Let's just relax.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:13 AM
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8. Maryland is not the South!!!!
I am from GA. I live in Northern VA (also not the South).

Maryland is heavily, consistently Democratic. That is why my Dem friends were so startled at the Robert Ehrlich victory.

It also points to the fact that many Dems in heavily Dem states are at risk.

Why? Because too many of them are complacent. Reform should be a mantra for Dems out there in heavy Dem states. Remembering the people and their needs too.

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:20 AM
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14. That was a painful election - he ran against
a Kennedy!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:29 AM
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17. She was a pill
I'm not happy that Ehrlich won, but Kathleen Kennedy Townsend was a brutally bad candidate.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:40 AM
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21. Hell yes..
It would have been tough for this yellow dog Democrat to vote for that vicious women with no personality.
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DACT Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:14 AM
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9. Maryland went for Carter in 1980 (not Mondale)
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 09:14 AM by DACT
Edit: spelling

This means nothing (no offense to MD but it's safe Dem country). Gore beat Bush in Maryland 56 to 40 in 2000.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:19 AM
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12. Maryland is 20 minutes from my door
and nowhere near the Mason-Dixon line?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:19 AM
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13. When did Maryland become "The South"
Maryland is not the South, despite their geographical location. The South is more defined by cultural boundaries, not by state lines and old slavery-era lines.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:29 AM
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16. Umm, check your geography
maps of the U.S. The Mason-Dixon line runs between Maryland and Pennsylvania.

I lived in Maryland and enjoyed it very much. While there were parts of it that felt NEastern, (Baltimore and environs, for example or hoity-toity Rockville), the smaller communities and western MD did indeed feel quite southern, moreso than Northern VA.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:44 AM
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22. central PA is "more southern" than MD
really....
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:22 AM
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15. That poll doesn't say how the others would do, does it?
Perhaps Clark beats him by 20 points and Kucinich betas him by 9?
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DACT Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:31 AM
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18. Clark's not doing too much better than Dean
A couple of points difference that's it.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:53 AM
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24. Maryland has touchscreen voting machines....that may give the
thief in chief the vote no matter what the polls say...or who actually wins.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:57 AM
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26. They just found internal documents from Diebold say to gauge prices
for Maryland, if they demand machines that print a paper receipt. My hubby told me yesterday, we have to keep this in the news. Their is no way that we can win, no matter who the nominee is, if they are allowed to cheat again! Luckily here in MS we have the most ghetto system of sharpe markers and paper ballots. I never thought that I would be glad that we were so behind the times. In less than a month, we have gathered 50 names of people that want to help campaign for Dean. We are meeting this weekend to discuss a strategy for future campaigning and voter registration. MS may still go to the repubs (due to the ignorant redneck vote) but we will work our asses off to make sure that as many people as possible can and will vote Dem.
I am currently writing a speech to give to my friend's church next Sunday. She said that after she told her co-workers about me coming to her church (I'm white they are black) they all wanted me to come and speak to their churches. They want shithead gone!
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:56 AM
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25. Mid-Atlantic, not Southern (eom)
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