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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:06 AM
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A setback for the Gay Agenda
You know the agenda, Human beings wanting to be treated like human beings. How dare they. The Lafayette Parish (Louisiana) school board anquished for three hours and finally voted 5 to 3 against apologizing to a mother of a 7 year old boy who was punished for having the audacity to tell a classmate that his mother was gay. The boy brought home a note to his mother from his teacher which said "he explained to another child that you are gay and what being gay means." The horror of it all. Will our nation survive? A Baptist seminarian from Lafayette says he trusts the school superintendants version of events, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CONTRADICTED BY WRITTEN REPORTS. Don't let facts get in the way of a Baptist Seminarian and his incubation of hate.
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:11 AM
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1. I am truly baffled....
by the degree of hate exhibited by some Southern Baptists.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:16 AM
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2. I would be interested to know just what the school board would

have gay peoples' kids say.

Is it their contention that the children should lie?

Tell others who ask why they have 2 moms/dads that they are not allowed to say? That the information is classified?

Hang their heads in shame and burst into tears?

Why not just ban children of gay parents from attending the school?

Bring it on!
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:18 AM
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3. f'ed up.
What exactly *is* the school superintendent's version of events? :wtf: I figured they would try to justify the school's response, but now they're trying to somehow argue that the mother and son *lied* about what happened?

For all the effort people like this Baptist seminarian put into evangelism, their hate-filled bs turns a lot more people off than on.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:24 AM
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6. Sorry
I left out that detail. The school board contended the boy was disciplined because he was being "disruptive" in class. However, eye witnesses and the teacher's version (in other words, the truth) has been ably documented. It must take a lot of testosterone to pick on a seven year old.
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:23 AM
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4. I listen to Stern and enjoy him.....
and from time to time he has on a family of loons from "god hates faggots .com" what is scarey is that the level of viscious hatefulness this family exhibits is not unique.

I wonder what fuels a passion of hatred to burn so intensely.
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:24 AM
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5. It was a truly disgusting matter...
handled in a truly disgusting way.

BTW, I think you should probably use the term "gay cause" rather than "gay agenda." The right wingers use that phrasing to imply that gays are an organized bloc determined to press "their" agenda on the rest of us proper god-fearin' folk.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:27 AM
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7. Thanks
You are right, however, I like to point out the lunacy of the right wing "agenda." I'd like to take that agenda and ram it up their butts and destroy some braincells.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:34 AM
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8. i have tried to avoid this piece of news
but this is simply grotesque and barbaric.
but i have been contending that religous conservatives mean real physical harm to certain members of our society -- gay people are certainly at the top of the list, but dedicated straight liberals are up there too. they are evil and intend on spreading their version of religous poison however they can.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:55 AM
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9. i hope i don't have to cite my creds as a supporrter of GLB rights but....
i have an issue here. there has to be a consideration of the rights of parents to determine when they introduce their children to the concepts of sexuality in all forms. seven years old is pretty young.

i actually have discussed this issuem when it first surfaced with some gay friends and they were 3 to 1 on the idea that all should parents teach their children that cettain things, such as income or family dynamics are personal to the family. NOT shameful, just private.

we never did read the context of how this subject came up but it isn't a cut and dry thing imho. if a kid is asked what his daddy does by the teacher, like as an essay, the teacher should be counseled as to how to avoid such problems. if a kid asked another kid the question, that's a tougher answer. but, there should be a consideration for parents of the rest of the kids as to how and when they choose to introduce the idea of sexuality in their home.

i'm not totally firm on this but maybe 80% that at that age, what happens at home, in many arenas, should stay at home.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:04 AM
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10. sexuality...
Is the statement "I have two moms" inherently sexual? Any more than saying "I have a mom and a dad"? The kid didn't say anything about what his moms do in the bedroom... his moms probably try not to expose him to that anyway.

(I don't know how the children of gay parents feel, but I sure was revolted by the idea of my mom and dad doin' it!
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veganwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:19 AM
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12. if you have a mom and a dad
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 11:20 AM by veganwitch
its kinda implicit that they had sex to create you. not so much for a same sex relationship.

it just shows the hetrosexist nature of american society when a hetrosexual relationship which can create children is not considered "sexual" but when you mention you have a same sex partner, any discussion of it automatically conjures images of how that would work in bed.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:13 AM
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11. If a kid asks another "where do babies come from?"

and the other kid tells him, then yeah, if the parents had hoped that they would be the ones to tell the kid about it, they are out of luck.

Similarly, if a kid asks another kid what does gay mean, and the other kid tells him, parents who hoped that their kids wouldn't find out gay people existed until next year are out of luck.

This is not new, it is one of the risks parents take when they delay telling their children about sexuality.

If you really feel strongly that this is something that children should hear about from their parents first, better start talking early!
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