Who regrets the rise of Nazi Amerikka in 2000?

[RBHam]

I do.

Sure wish that votes counted like the founding fathers intended.

[AntiCoup2K4]

1. Abolish the electoral college now!

This ain't 1787... Even with punchcard ballots, election results can be tabulated by precinct overnight. There's no need for this relic anymore.

[bitchkitty]

2. I wish - instant runoff voting too!

Both pipe dreams, I fear.

[terrya]

3. You're absolutely right.

The winner is the person who receives the most votes. How simple can this concept be?

Abolish the Electoral College immediately. All it does is to leave open the possiblity of more stolen elections.

[Mika]

4. Like the founding fathers intended?

I hope you don't mean that part where the vote belongs only to land owning white males over 25 yrs old. Do you?

[RBHam]

5. Touche

I meant the general principle. ALL men are created equal...yadda yadda...

I meant this post to be a response to the inane "do you regret the commies" posts.

I'm being a tad facetious you see.

I'd rather my other thread get kicked, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=887624

I put some thought into that one.

[KharmaTrain]

6. This Nation Has NEVER Been Equal and Never Will

The founding fathers purposely put the Electoral college in as a buffer between the rich and powerful and the "riff raff"...thus that a popular vote would not be the ultimate determinator of a Presidential election.

Some Constitutional scholars will argue that the SCOTUS usurption of the popular vote was exactly what the forefathers had in mind as they were overseeing and protecting the Executive. No, I think the SCOTUS overstepped its bounds in hopping into a state matter before it was legally exhausted in that state and told states that their voting rights are all but null and void to the whims of a runaway judiciary.

The Electoral College isn't going away, but it can be ammended to be more reflective of the popular vote. I have long suggested issuing electoral votes based on district, thus eliminating the winner-take-all game where someone can win all the electoral votes with a bare majority (which didn't happen in Florida anyway)...thus that if Candidate A were to win your congressional district, he/she win that electoral vote...the two senators are figured in afterwards...either both votes going with the majority of the states votes or split if that's the results.

Our forefathers trusted us as little as our current regime, the big difference is they put it on paper and in the open, and open to continual ammending and revision.

[RBHam]

7. You're right

But there is that wording in the document.

"All men are created equal."

And i take "men" to mean "mankind" (in the context that Neil Armstrong used) - women are included.

The electoral college can be changed - they can never erase those words.