Bush Sr. had a 91% approval rating after Gulf War One......

[Wetzelbill]

He appeared invincible and no big name Democrat wanted to waste their time by taking him on. Mario Cuomo -the likely strongest candidate at the time- said "no thanks" while retired Senator Paul Tsongas and a slightly obscure Arkansas Governor named Bill Clinton became the frontrunners in the early primaries. Clinton, younger than most prominent Democratic leaders by a decade or two, with no foreign policy experience and amid a tirade of personal attacks ended up winning the nomination with a combination of political skill, charisma and intellect. Next up, he took out both Bush and a Texas billionaire named Ross Perot and became President when it was unthinkable a little over a year before that Bush, Sr., could even be beaten. Big Bush's rating dropped 57 points in nearly a year, and the problemns he created were a mere pittance compared to what his son has amassed. So this begs the question: Can Howard Dean -or any other candidate beat Shrub in November 2004? Answer? You damn well bet they can. So don't believe all this garbage about Dean or whomever not being electable.

Remember in the fall of 1992, just how desperate the elder Bush became, Whitewater, Gennifer Flowers, all of which was sordid and unfounded. Clinton prevailed by fighting back and countering it all with his charisma -remember the Elvis shades and the sax?- and unwillingness to buckle under the pressure of dirty tactics.

So let's go out and win this thing. Dems will be Dems so we will fight, argue and kick and punch each others lights out when it comes to who we support but come Convention time, let's fight fire with fire and take Bush out. Any of our candidates whether, it is Dean, Kerry, Clark, Edwards, Kucinich or a mop with a wig on it, are as electable as we make them. I said what I wanted. ::whew:: Feel better now.

[AngryYoungMan]

1. Diebold.

It's the rebuttal to everything you've said. (Not actually a rebuttal but you know what I mean.)

I'm beginning to think that Schwarzenegger is the first Diebold "crown prince." California was at least a big a mess as Florida 2000 and nobody cares in the slightest.

Diebold is how they'll get us. There will be no exit polls and lots of "surprising" Republican victories, and then we'll be told that "the people have spoken" and that we should "get over it" and stop whining.

[Wetzelbill]

2. yikes, now I'm freaked out again

[AngryYoungMan]

3. Sorry.

:)

I'm just theorizing. Your post made ME feel better; sorry to be a wet blanket in response.

[Wetzelbill]

4. I'll live

[bryant69]

6. This is one reason to get our ducks in a row now

We need to let America know that the electoral system of America is in jeopardy, so that if we have to challange the election results it doesn't come as a surprise.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Maine-i-acs]

10. People are catching on to Diebold.

Maybe Jimmy Carter can check for voting fraud here ...

[Killarney]

5. Thanks for that post

I needed a shot of optimism today! :)

[HFishbine]

7. Some more encouragement

Look how Bush is tracking daddy:

[tritsofme]

9. Hes in about the same place as most incumbant presidents in the last 50

years.

I think that bush*'s approval stabilizes right around where it is now.

I dont think comparisons to 1992 are valid, it was a fundamentally different time, where foreign policy was de-emphasized, where now it will be the leading issue of the election. Also I dont think the economy will be as big of an issue either. You also need to look at the near right-wing control of the media, in which * can do no wrong.

No matter what happens between now and November, and no matter who the candidate is, it is going to be a very close election in a very divided nation.

[HFishbine]

11. Hint

"trend"

[tritsofme]

12. I think the trend is toward stabilization,

and his numbers coming down to more realistic numbers after unrealistic highs from 9-11 and Iraq.

He is essentially within the margin of error from of the Gallup poll in July.

The trend I do like however, is the increasing amount of dissaproval he gets, much fewer undecided, either you generally like him, or you hate him.

[madddog]

8. ah...if there were *just* someone...

with Clinton's charisma, GB would be history.