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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:49 PM
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Are the polls wrong about Kucinich?
http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specials_2003-12/articles/11008-1.html

"Kucinich is now, with a usual estimate of two percent support in most polls, where Clinton Was in the Months before the Start of the 1991 Primaries. But the congressman's very strong showing in web activity is a very positive sign that suggests pollsters who poll just a few hundred people may be wrong about Kucinich. The Alexa.com stats used in this article that show Dean, then Kucinich in the lead, ahead of the pack, are based on data from hundreds of thousands of internet users. The CDC vote was based on votes from delegates, representing 130 Democratic clubs and county central committees."

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:50 PM
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1. most certainly
but I've been saying that for months
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:51 PM
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2. It doesn't matter
right or wrong, Kucinich is a needed voice in the debate. If the polls prove to be wrong, all the better. If they turn out to be right, we'll still be better off for having had Special K in the race.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:53 PM
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3. we should all support Dean
and get behind the "eventual" nominee right now! Anything less is helping Bush...

/sarcasm
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:54 PM
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4. That's like saying:
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 04:55 PM by brainshrub
"Your either with us or the terrorists."

ON EDIT: Oops...I didn't see the /sarcasm.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 07:39 PM
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5. Do we usually believe the polls?
Now that I've seen firsthand the corporate media trying to marginalize Kucinich, and a bunch of media people go on record saying they were ignoring him because his ideas were "dangerous", it doesn't sound so crazy that the polls are false.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:04 PM
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10. Can you clarify that?
and a bunch of media people go on record saying they were ignoring him because his ideas were "dangerous",



Who said that? Inquiring minds want to know.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 07:44 PM
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6. That's only a poll of Democrat true-believers on the internet.
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 07:44 PM by library_max
That's not a poll of probable voters, not even a poll of probable Democratic primary voters. Why not just poll only Kucinich supporters and be done with it?
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:00 PM
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7. The CDC vote was not an internet poll.
It was a vote of California party leaders. Kucinich placed second in voting around the state by members of the California Democratic Council. See results: http://www.cdc-ca.org/result03.htm
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:02 PM
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8. Okay, but
a) California is not the whole country, and
b) party leaders do not decide primaries. Voters decide primaries.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 05:40 PM
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12. yes
and nothing has been decided
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 08:04 PM
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9. Indubitably, yes.
And we'll be getting some proof in about a month or so. :D
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 05:38 PM
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11. kick n/t
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 05:42 PM
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13. ummm, dupe..?
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:07 PM
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16. is it a dupe?
if it was post 24 hours before the other thread?
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 05:42 PM
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14. I think they're off by a factor of at least 2
I bet he's somewhere in the 2.5-3 percent range, which puts him near Edwards.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 05:42 PM
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15. I hope so!
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 05:43 PM by neebob
Whoever posted a few days ago that Clinton was polling 6 percent at this time in 1991 made my day.

On edit: Make that in 1991, not last year.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:09 PM
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17. For the country's sake
I hope so. I think Kucinich is being underestimated and will start getting more and more noticed in the months ahead
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:24 PM
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18. dupe
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