1) Is the media trying to pick our Dem candidate? If so: 2) Why?

[Myra]

I think the two most important issues right now are
e-voting fraud, and the following:

1) Is the media trying to pick our Dem candidate?

If so:

2) Why?

RSVP.

[Bombtrack]

1. The corporate/GOP friendly PARTS of the media are

I.E., parts they have leverage on, and they are doing what they can to influence the primary.

It's really rediculous, I believe to deny that the GOP hierachy has almost unanimously wanted Howard Dean to be the nominee, since anyone saw that as a remote possiblity.

I don't think you can see any more basic of a double standard than his surprise second quarter funraising victory(which heralded complete media saturation topped off with simultaneous Time and Newsweek covers), to Edwards surprise first quarter fundraising victory, which recieved almost no decent press.

The GOP has been influencing the media in every way it can now, to stifle Dean's main opposition, Kerry, Edwards, and I beleive now most of all, Clark

[Myra]

2. If so, 3) Was "Koppel's" debate an example of media picking candidate?

Or was it just Koppel amuck?

[sendero]

3. Yawn....

....yes. And they know who they can beat, just look at 1992. And they know what they are doing, just look at Iraq, the economy, and Bush*s' incredibly low polling numbers.

I've said it 10 times and will 10 times more, I could give a rat's backside who the Reps think they can beat, I'm more interested in who I think will make a good President.

Not only that, but I'll also mention that the Reps do have a tight control of the message, and you are hearing what they want you to hear. It might be true or it might be disinfo. Hard to say, so who cares?

[Bombtrack]

4. and they've been getting a little better at politicking since 12 years ago

evidenced by there solid majority in every branch and every level in US government today.

I've seen no evidence that they wanted Clinton in any way close to how much they want Dean now anyway. Clinton wasn't even running against any obviously strong candidates. Who did they want instead, Tsongas? 4 years after they destroyed another Massachusetts dem in the electoral college?

[Myra]

5. Why is it just a "Yawn" when the media is appointing Dean our candidate?

1) Is the media trying to pick our Dem candidate?

The general concensus from the yawn demographic
is "yeah, duh." Could it be any more obvious?

2) Why?

"And they know who they can beat," also the general
concensus from the yawners.

3) Was "Koppel's" debate an example of media picking candidate?

Obviously rhetorical, i.e., another "yeah, duh."

4) Since the media is obviously trying to pick a candidate,
and it's obvious they'll pick someone they know they can beat,
does it bother any Dean supporters that the "debate"
was a 90 minute commercial for Dean?

[Bread and Circus]

13. don't you mean "informercial" ?

[drfemoe]

18. Ted's debate

did have an overtone of attempting to justify pulling their reporters from the three candidates they deem to be the "back pack".

That doesn't mean it was a 90 minute infomercial for Dean.
I don't agree with that part of the equation.

I doubt anyone at DU would 'defend' the rw media.

Last night Dick Morris (on Bill O.R) repeated about seven times the lie that Dean legalized "GAY MARRIAGE".

Let's don't fall into the trap of using the same 'reasoning' the rw (ie Rush) does .. "Why is everybody always picking on me .. "

[info being]

9. Right

The candidates which the media ignores are the strongest. Obviously they are supporting Dean because they think he will lose. Kucinich threatens the very status quo upon which the media is based.

[SahaleArm]

6. Faux, MSGOP, CNN headlines this morning - Dean, Dean, and more Dean.

I've noticed a little tempering of Dean media support, don't want to jump the gun and let someone else slip in.

[mmonk]

7. power

and being the first to call it.

[info being]

8. simple

1) Yes

2) The media is owned by people well-connected to the current looters in Washington and they stand to benefit directly.

[info being]

10. One more thing...

If that was a serious question, go ahead and rent or buy the DVD Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky this weekend.

[cryofan]

12. It's in my VCR right now! Checked out from the public library! n/t

[cryofan]

11. Yeah, this is what they always do. Just read Chomsky, Zinn, Parenti

The elections are run by the media for the benefit of those with power and money...

[mlawson]

14. 1) They would LIKE to 2) To cause the nomination of the weakest

Dem candidate, of course.

I do not believe the media is quite capable of picking a Dem nominee. Rep nominee, maybe, but that is different.

Look back to 1992 and 1996. Did the media cause Clinton to be nominated?? No, he was the Reps' greatest nightmare.

[joanski01]

15. No question about it.

The media is trying to pick Dean as the nominee. Why? Because that's what they do. Make sure the Democrats don't win. That's what they get paid for. And big bucks, too.

[mlawson]

16. Why would they want Dean to be the nominee???

Yes, there are Dems would could not beat bush (6 of them, IMO), but Dean is not in that group. I see him as one of the three, fresh, LIKABLE Dems who could beat bush in November.

It's obvious to me that the media's best case scenario is if we nominate (or the DNC installs) someone who *might* win DC and one or two other states.

[kentuck]

17. They like FCC rulings and profits....

Money and profits trumps any idea of public service...