Black Box Voting: Announcement Pending

[BevHarris]

From Bev Harris and Andy Stephenson:

Something came up late last week. Because of that, Andy Stephenson and I did a swing through Vancouver, Canada. We would like to announce our findings.

We will hold a press conference on Tuesday Dec. 16 in Seattle, Washington. If you are a Seattleite and can suggest a venue for this -- better yet, assist with arranging for microphones, suggesting a place that can hold a few dozen people plus cameras, easy to find for media even if they are coming from out of town, please e-mail [e-mail].

If you are a journalist, in my opinion, this is worth a visit to Washington. Media information goes out Sunday night. Press contact: E-mail [e-mail] to make sure you're on the list.

Yes, the book is done. I'd love to have books to pass out at the press conference, but doubt that the print copies can be in Seattle by Tuesday -- will ask David tomorrow about that.

However, this press conference contains new information not previously released.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[Jim Sagle]

1. Thank you, Bev.

:loveya:

[The Zanti Regent]

52. YOU GO, GIRL!

WE LOVE YOU, BEV!

[mhr]

2. Hi Bev, You Are Back! Good To See You Alive And Kicking At DU Again!

eom

[Andy_Stephenson]

3. Great Post Bev!

I'm looking forward to Tuesdays press conference.

[Andy_Stephenson]

4. Keep this thread kicked...

for the morning crew.

[morgan2]

5. what a tease

vancouver.. where global election systems was based. Hopefully someone admitting their crimes?

[TorchTheWitch]

6. aaaah, Bev!

You and your teases!

Great work! Can't wait to find out what the scoop is.

:yourock:

On Edit: Andy rocks too!

[BevHarris]

7. Andy seriously rocks. He gets them talking

and I keep them talking. And we make a mean team on a document hunt.

Bev

[Andy_Stephenson]

8. It is my extensive training in

Detective work that makes the difference. :evilgrin:

And Bev's journalistic instinct.



Discalimer...Mom taught me everything I ever learned about being a detective.

[greatauntoftriplets]

11. Kicking this thread.

and :hi: to Mom.

[Occulus]

115. The Holy Trinity,

it sees and hears ALL.... bwahah! :)

oh, Bev & Andy, did I menation that :yourock:?

Silly edit to change an extracurricular dollar sign into an ampersand (sp??).

[Melsky]

9. I can't wait to find out what it is!

How exciting.

[Andy_Stephenson]

24. Kick

:kick:

[ithacan]

10. kick

looking forward to hearing about this!

[shirlden]

12. Got a good feeling about this one

Really don't want to wait. Is this our Christmas present from Bev??

Double kick for the sleep-in Sat. morning group.


:kick: :kick:

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. excellent!

:)

[MuseRider]

14. Morning kick

Can't wait!

[nostamj]

15. glad to see you back on the board!

all this MYSTERY.... will be an interesting week!

[truth2power]

16. Thank you, Bev.

You are appreciated more than you know. Even tho' I don't have much to say, you can be assured that I am following every day and wishing you success in your endeavor.

To Bev and all those who are working so hard on this. Thank you, thank you.

[truth2power]

17. Dupe of my post above. .

Sorry.

[nostamj]

18. kick for all those waiting word from Bev...

[donsu]

19. kick

nt

[Champion Jack]

20. KICKED

:kick:

[nostamj]

21. and once again!

:kick:

[DUreader]

22. yay

[alfredo]

23. there's the snap, and there's the

:kick:

Hope it is through the goal posts.

[VeniceBeat]

25. Bev and Andy: True American Heroes!

Tackling the most important issue of our lifetimes!

[blm]

26. Good going, patriots.

Your books better be ready soon....cuz 'ours' are gladly waiting patiently so BBV is priority one. ;))))))))

[BevHarris]

33. David tells me we can probably have a handful Tuesday

With the magic of editing it was cut by 50 pages without losing any key information, and also contains at least 30 pages of new material.

Bev

[nostamj]

34. i'm guessing the new org charts were too late...

doesn't matter! can't wait to hold that book in my hands!

(and get the copies out to Hillary and Schumer)

[BevHarris]

37. No, they made it into the book!

Sorry, I have literally been juggling elephants and what I could not do was handle the 1160 emails that came in over the past few days. Thought I told you thanks already -- guess not.

Nostamj charts are in the ES&S company history. They look great. Thanks for the black box flow charting, Nostamj.

Bev

[nostamj]

39. oh yeah!

i thought the 'black boxes' worked for the overall concept of the book!

i KNOW what's been going on since we last talked and would have understood if they missed the deadline

[blm]

46. cool, nostamj....

mr. blm had offered to do charts. He'd probably have gotten fired if he did, though.

[Pastiche423]

27. Good luck

to both of you on Tuesday!

Can't wait for your report.

And many, many thanks for your hard work.

[RedEagle]

29. Waiting for Tuesday...

Kick!

[alfredo]

28. one more kick

for old times sake.



:kick:

[RedEagle]

30. Ooops!

Kicked a couple others and need to get this back up on top.

[dansolo]

31. Bev, why don't you burn copies of the book on CDs

If you can't have copies of the book on time, you can at least have electronic copies to hand out.

[BevHarris]

35. Heckuva backup plan -- Will do that.

Thanks -- I hope also to have a few demo copies on hand. But this way we can bring extras. Good thought.

Bev

[Andy_Stephenson]

45. I'll burn 15 or so copies.

Are the chapters up and ready for download?

[hunter]

48. "Business Card" CD's can be useful for this sort of thing...

They are more expensive than generic 5 inch CD-Rs, but they fit nicely in a shirt pocket or purse.

[juajen]

55. I forgot

:kick:

[SeattleRob]

32. Thanks

:kick:

[PissedOffPollyana]

36. What's the usual thanks for saving democracy?

KICK!

[RedEagle]

38. Staying on Page 1!

Kick!

[rucky]

40. How ya doing today, Andy?

[nostamj]

41. i *just* talked with him

he's 'stiff' but otherwise OK.

will be at the 12/16 press conference

[JohnGideon]

42. A Kick For Bev and Andy n/t

[havocmom]

43. for BBV and country, a kick back to page one (n/t)

[Andy_Stephenson]

44. Kick

:bounce:

[chelaque liberal]

47. You heard it here first

[SharonAnn]

49. Awesome

And kick

[RedEagle]

50. One More For Tonight

Kick!

[Systematic Chaos]

51. Don't have much to add here

other than that I'm so glad you are okay....

People were starting to worry, myself among them. Can't wait to read about what happens in Seattle here on DU! :)

[althecat]

53. Can't wait to find out what is up!!!

And fantastic news about the book. Congratulations Bev.... has been a long long hard slog. And it couldn't really be published into a more receptive news environment than exists at present. The new hot issue on the Democratic primaries trail :)

So kudos, big ups etc...

Al

[juajen]

54. Hi, Bev

Been missing your posts. Will listen up with all ears.

[leftchick]

56. kick to get past saddam....

posts....


:kick:

[laylah]

57. kickin' it n/t

[Andy_Stephenson]

58. Kick

:kick:

[Generic Other]

59. A possible person to contact...

I noticed that Robert Mak from King-5 is always dogging Tim Eyman. He seems to be very knowledgeable about voting issues.

Maybe Bev or Andy should try to give him a personal head's up?

It occurs to me that if you held the press conference in front of Tim Eyman's post office box...every station in town would show up.

Any chance Eyman has taken donations from any of the voting machine companies?

Keep us posted!

[nostamj]

60. a KICK into the Saddam fog.... n/t

[dragonlady]

61. Is the timing of Saddam's capture suspicious?

Bev posted this news in the early hours of Saturday morning. The capture of Saddam occurred something like 8 hours later. Is this just a coincidence? One might wonder whether someone has been keeping tabs on Saddam for quite a while (and on DU and BBV.org) and decided to move when it would have the most news value. Hmm?

[Andy_Stephenson]

62. I was wondering the same thing this AM

coinkydink...I don't think so...But it is not about BBV. I would posit it is about Halliburton, and their theft.

[creativelcro]

63. LOL: cover up for the BBV announcement!...

Yes, if they had SOLID proof Diebold stole the election in a bunch of places. But I doubt it's that drastic :) Good job Andy!

[Andy_Stephenson]

64. You won't know till Tuesday....

but the news is VERY big and backed with solid proof.

[creativelcro]

65. Great! That is going to be good publicity for your campaign too then!

Really hope you show your opponent they cannot mess with determined people.

[Andy_Stephenson]

66. This is a more newsworthy than ALL SADDAM

ALL THE TIME

:kick:

[never cry wolf]

67. C'mon Andy, a lil hint for your pals here

We won't tell anyone, just us DUers listening.

[Andy_Stephenson]

68. Sorry

No can do.

[RedEagle]

69. Page One Until Tuesday

Kick!

[creativelcro]

70. Are they gonna declare the 2000 Election VOID as a result of this ?

:) kick!

[JohnGideon]

71. No, But It Would Be Nice

kick

[frank frankly]

72. kick

kick

[BevHarris]

78. Okay it's being oversold now. This is the most accurate info:

This is solid information, very disturbing, which will take concerns about black box voting to a new level.

The press conference will be held at 2 p.m. I am really stressing here -- I need to start rolling the press releases out NOW and I haven't got a confirm on a place. I've already got a camera guy flying in from L.A., it would be nice if I can tell him where he's going.

Does anyone know if you need a permit to hold a press conference in a public building like the public library? I'm sure you do. A really spacious Starbucks? Someone in Seattle have a relatively easy to find business we can do this at? Aarrgh.

Wait -- what about a hotel lobby? That has possibilities...but this is politically sensitive and I don't want to shoot 5,000 press releases out and then get it shut down on before it starts.

Bev

[Bushfire]

79. How about Andy's Subway store?

Could give a boost to his campaign as well...as I'm not in Seattle, I have no other solid ideas.

[creativelcro]

80. Kick!

[RedEagle]

82. Schedule a Room?

Bev,

Maybe you can schedule to use a room in the public library, like is done other places for meetings, etc.

I don't know why that would take a permit.

[TorchTheWitch]

104. That's a good idea

How big would the place need to be? How many people are expected?

If worse comes to worst, you could rent a hall or room like people do for parties.

I know a lot of law firms that let people use their large conference rooms especially if reporters and cameras are involved (we don't know who they are or what they're about but it makes us look important!... Roll Tape!). ;)

[Andy_Stephenson]

73. Stay up top lil doggie

:kick:

[Gingersnap]

74. kick

Good work Bev and everyone else who has been tirelessly pursuing this.

:kick:

[frank frankly]

75. kick

:kick:

[nolabels]

76. kick

eom

[RedEagle]

77. 'Til Tuesday

Kick!

[madfloridian]

81. A kick for good news and hard work.

:kick:

[Andy_Stephenson]

83. The News Conference will be held at

Seattle Labor Temple
1800 First Ave.
Seattle, WA 98181
206-441-7582

[Andy_Stephenson]

84. kick

:kick:

[JohnGideon]

85. Andy, Check that Address.

It's 2800 First Ave.

[Johnyawl]

86. Is it possible for Seattle DUers to attend?

Let me know, and confirm the address and time, I'd love to be there. I could come early and help out if you need some bodies. Don't know much about microphones, etc, but I'm a carpenter,I'm strong and can take direction well.

I'm also big, beafy and hairy,(my kids think I look like an old Hell's Angel) so if you need some help with crowd control, like throwing freepers out on the sidewalk, I'd be more than happy to help with that. :evilgrin:

[nostamj]

87. updated PR on www.blackboxvoting.org now

if you haven't read it yet... www.blackboxvoting.org

NEWS CONFERENCE - BREAKING - Voting Systems Security Concerns Rise to New Level

Press Conference in Seattle at 2 p.m. Tuesday December 16 - at Seattle Labor Temple - 2800 First Ave. - Seattle

16 DEC 2003, Seattle WA — This is of national interest. A new security concern has surfaced which may eclipse the software holes in the Diebold voting system found by Johns Hopkins and Rice University scientists in July. Bev Harris, author of “Black Box Voting” and Andy Stephenson, democratic candidate for Washington secretary of state, have uncovered new holes in the electoral system in King County and in as many as 14 additional states.

These security breaches affect both the optical scan systems (fill-in-the-dot or draw-the-line) and touch screen voting systems, and may also indicate significant security problems with absentee voting procedures.

At the Tuesday press conference, Harris and Stephenson will distribute a packet of documents to support their allegations. Whereas electronic voting concerns have focused on complex issues like cryptographic security and computer source code, the new security flaws uncovered by Harris and Stephenson are more serious and also easier to explain. Because the subject matter is sensitive, reporters will want copies of the original documents to substantiate the allegations, and these will be released at the news conference.

The news conference will be held in Seattle at 2 p.m. in a location to be disclosed Monday morning on the front page of this BlackBoxVoting.org.

“This information is significant enough to merit a trip to Seattle for members of the press who don’t live here,” says Harris. It affects four counties in Washington State and locations in Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Maryland and Virginia.

“What we have are two intertwined security breaches which deserve immediate attention from the U.S. Congress,” says Stephenson. “We need to address procedural safeguards as soon as possible to put a halt to these problems and prevent them from ever happening again.”

A 20-page dossier will provide the specific U.S. locations affected, as well as the details on multiple security breaches which may have compromised the integrity of at least two dozen elections.

[Andy_Stephenson]

89. You're welcome to attend if you would like.

crowd control may be an issue.

[Johnyawl]

90. Thanks - I'll be there

and this will give it another kick back to the front page

[JohnGideon]

91. I'll Be There Too, Andy

all 6'7 330 lbs.

[Johnyawl]

92. Well, it looks like we've got "Big" JohnGideon...

and "Little"JohnYawl (at 6'1", 250 lbs)

[Andy_Stephenson]

94. hehehehehe

Crowd Control...Taken care of.

[JohnGideon]

96. Andy, I had to call Murray and Cantwell anyway

so I invited staffers for both of them to stop in and see what was going on.

[TorchTheWitch]

106. don't sweat it "Little John"

affecting an angry psychotic grimace is more important. ;)

[Johnyawl]

108. I have a fearsome scowl!

Geniph will vouch for that. :evilfrown:

[stevedeshazer]

102. Thanks @2pm?

:kick:

[stevedeshazer]

103. nevermind, got it

6'1" 230 on the line

[TorchTheWitch]

105. great, you got a place

That'll teach me to post before I'm done reading.

[Johnyawl]

88. Kick to keep this on page one

[lysergik]

93. Kick

[frank frankly]

95. page one

:kick:

[gristy]

97. I have forwarded this info to my "buds" in state guv'ment

Looking forward to tomorrow... Thanks, you guys.

[bobbieinok]

98. kick

kick

[leftchick]

100. great news....

:kick:

[knight_of_the_star]

99. Any hints about what will be let out?

Please?

[barbaraann]

101. Article: "E-Voting Critics Grow Louder"

http://news.yahoo.com/?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/113879

This is the top-rated story on Yahoo right now. :-)

[Myra]

107. I voted it a 5!

Kick.

[lysergik]

109. A kick for the cause!

[dweller]

110. I can't even see the whole thread, but

:kick:
:kick:
:kick:

dp

[David Zephyr]

111. Kick

[frank frankly]

112. back up top

very exciting!

[RedEagle]

113. Like I said, until Tuesday...

Kick!

Give'em heck guys.

[frank frankly]

114. sure

:kick:

[loudsue]

116. Go Gettum' Bev & Andy......A big YES for our team!!!

O8)Stay safe and stay focused!!!O8)

IT'S WORKING!!!!!

We're going to get our Democracy back!!

Back up for the TUESDAY crowd!! I can hardly wait!! It's Tuesday 2:41 a.m.....less than 12 hours to go!!!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[frank frankly]

117. kick

see y'all tomorrow afternoon!!!

:hi:

[Dover]

118. I assume Krugman was informed? And Palast?

I know I probably am stating the obvious, but sometimes those things get lost in the shuffle......

[Andy_Stephenson]

119. Just because

:kick:

[RedEagle]

120. Tuesday Afternoon....

...we're just beginning to see, now we're on our way...

Kick!

[RedEagle]

121. Until 2pm...

Kick!

[nostamj]

123. a moody blues reference!!!

ah, the memories!

btw, :kick:

btw, will someone be able to get the SCOOP out to DU as soon as the press conference is over?

[RedEagle]

131. This one applies too

"It riles them to believe that you perceive."

Yep, love that group.

Also know about the Boeing press conference.

AND...

That Secretary of State Sam Reed announced in an earlier press conference Washington State would require paper records.

Made himself sound all concerned and such. It's only taken eight months of hard fighting to get them to do this, and really, really suspicious in the face of Bev and Andy's press conference coming down.

Can you say, "Trying to save face?"

[loudsue]

128. OOOO! RedEagle!!

The Moody Blues!!!

:loveya:

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[Melinda]

122. *kick*

13 minutes and counting. :)

[Missy Vixen]

124. I don't mean to be the killjoy of all time here,

but did you all realize that the "yahoo, Boeing's going to build more planes here" press conference is also at 2 PM in Everett?

Julie

[Dover]

125. kicking........waiting.......

waiting........kicking.

[Junkdrawer]

126. 2 PM Eastern or Pacific?

:kick:

[nostamj]

127. pacific time n/t

[loudsue]

129. Pacific Time!!!!! Oh no!!!

loudsue pees in pants.....

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[alfredo]

130. I informed our local TV stations here in Kentucky.

I e-mailed them then followed it up with a call. I contacted WLEX-NBC
WKYT- CBS, and WTVQ-ABC WTVQ is passing the info on to National.

[Name removed]

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[Moderator]

133. Please continue discussion HERE

in thread two:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=922799