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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:08 AM
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A question about Dean
I'm reading everywhere that Dean has raised so much money. Does anyone know just how much he has raised?
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:10 AM
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1. $25.4 million up to Sept. 30
he's raised at least $2.5 million this week alone that I'm aware of.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:16 AM
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2. Looking at just the dollar amount raised ignores a key issue.
How much has been contributed by Bush supporters to help Dean secure the nomination (especially in the early stages of the campaign where it really mattered)?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:17 AM
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:27 AM
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4. so so sad........
I feel for you.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 08:42 AM
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7. The real key issue
is that all that money for Dean was raised in small contributions (I believe the average is below $100). Each contributor stands for a vote and someone who is willing to talk about Dean to friends and neighbors. This is the true strength of Dean's campaign.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:11 AM
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8. Good question.
Repukes want to face Dean. They've been sending him dough from way back.

As for the Deanie-weenies: Why do you get so mad when someone points that out?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:14 AM
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9. Mad? How about offering the proof behind your accusation?
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 09:15 AM by HuckleB
Wouldn't that be nice?

How many Bush supporters have given money to Dean? How much have they given? And why would they have given any money "way back" when no one thought he had a chance to be the nominee?
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:14 AM
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14. i think it started with the fourth of july parade, when rove yelled out
'that's the guy we want' about dean. right after that, reports started surfacing here that the freeps were arguing about who to donate to. some wanted to donate to Sharpton to dilute the black vote while others wanted to obey rove and fund dean.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:16 AM
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15. So it's a sketchy rumor and nothing more?
That's what I thought.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 03:05 PM
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24. Proof
will not be forthcoming. For some people, any reality that contradicts the way they would like the world to be can only be explained by conspiracy theories.

"The republicans are financing Dean's campaign. Jet fuels can't melt steel girders. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. My fillings pick up secret broadcasts from Area 51."
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:58 AM
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12. Why do we get mad, Octafish?
It might possibly have something to do with the fact that there is *NOT ONE SCINTILLA OF EVIDENCE* to back up that ridiculous, libelous assertion. :grr:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 02:02 PM
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19. name calling
very mature.

As a Dean supporter what irritates me is when people state their opinion as fact. Especially those whose opinions are woefully uninformed. ;-)

Julie
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 03:17 PM
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26. I'm not mad.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:45 AM
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10. Nowhere near $24 million
If any GOPers donated at all it would hardly be a drop in Dean's bucket.

A thousand execs at $2000 a pop wouldn't even be 10% of what the campaign has taken in and I'd be greatly surprised if even a 100 identifiable GOP sources made any sort of contribution at all.

This is a tempest in a teapot.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:55 AM
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11. Have you ANY evidence whatsoever that ANY * supporter did that?
No, you don't. Nice content-free bash, Skwmom.. :eyes:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:01 AM
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13. It was even posted
on freep site..they were sending him $ also..
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:17 AM
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16. So you say.
Evidnence. Not rumors, please. Thank you.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:07 AM
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17. Well, how much money a candidate can raise does matter
Because running a campaign is NOT free. It costs money, and this election it's going to cost more than ever because Bush will be armed with over $200 million.

To claim that it is really Republicans funding Dean's campaign is dishonest. If that were the case Dean wouldn't be able to have a rally in NYC that brought out 10,000 people or more.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 01:59 PM
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18. The idea that
Bush supporters are contributing to Dean is laughable.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 02:44 PM
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22. Honestly, you can't be seious.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 02:46 PM
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23. Please tell me that you are under the influence of drugs
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:48 PM
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28. Very Little
People don't throw their money away like that. The Republicans aren't prescient and can't predict what will happen so they are not likely to put money to use in this way when issue ads are more effective.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:41 AM
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5. link
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:42 AM
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6. I do not know
but one thing is driving me nuts. The GOP are saying the same thing we said about Bush. He does not know enought. It was also said about Clinton. If Bush and Clinton learned I am sure Dean can also. But you would think that story would dry up.By the way I have yet to hear even a Repub. say Bush is smart only he knows how to pick the right people to run things.I still think Bush is a figure head but that is another point.
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Fahrenheit911 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 02:05 PM
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20. i'll give him money when he wins the nomination
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 02:36 PM
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21. some information
Dean still on top of money race
WASHINGTON, Oct. 1 — In the surreal mind-set of the campaign expectations game, psychology can get twisted at the end of every quarter. Democratic front-runner Howard Dean’s campaign publicly set $15 million as its goal for fund raising for the third quarter, which ended at midnight Tuesday. According to Dean’s Web site he raised $14.8 million, with last-minute contributions still being counted.

DEAN HAD dramatically exceeded fund-raising expectations in the second quarter by collecting $7.6 million. Is his $14.7 million a wee bit of a deflating result for the third quarter? Only if you live on the plane of surreal expectations.

EXTRAORDINARY MONEY MACHINE

Dean’s extraordinary money machine is still far more efficient than anything Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, or the other Democratic contenders have working for them.

Dean is on course to have enough money to air television ads and hire operatives in states where fund-raising laggards may not be able to during the hustle-bustle of primaries that will take place in February and the first week of March.

“We do believe it is an important decision that we’re going to have to make, because in the end Bush is just raising this money.... They’re going to raise $200 million and spend it against the Democrats between April and August when we go to the convention.... If we make the decision, it would be to compete with Bush. We’ve already proven that we can compete with the other Democrats.”

Simon Rosenberg, who heads the centrist New Democrat Network, put the Dean bounty in perspective by noting that in a 10-candidate field the former Vermont governor was able to raise 50 percent more than Bill Clinton raised in the best quarter of his 1996 re-election effort. Rosenberg called Dean’s feat “almost miraculous” and added, “We have to recognize that the Dean campaign is the best-run campaign we’ve ever seen.”

Taking the party-wide view, Rosenberg pointed to what almost no one else has noticed: Based on the preliminary estimates for the third quarter, the 10-person Democratic field collectively will have outraised the Bush campaign, an indication of how fired up Democratic donors are.

“If Bush is this supposed fund-raising king, then this so-called ‘weak’ Democratic field — to use Karl Rove’s word — is outraising him,” Rosenberg said.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/974339.asp
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=52916

Statement by Governor Dean on Today’s FEC Filing
DES MOINES—Governor Dean issued the following statement today regarding today's Dean for America Third Quarter FEC filing. The filing will reflect that the campaign raised $14.8 million in the third quarter from 168,000 Americans contributing an average of $73.69:

"Today's filing—the largest ever by a Democratic presidential campaign—is about more than simply donations given and cash spent. It is a report on the state of the American republic. It is a statement by a growing segment of American citizens that they no longer will accept the political status quo.

"This report documents an American citizenry that is awakening to reclaim their democracy and restore their republic; a citizenry that wants to take back their economy from corporate scandals and corporate executives who inflate their salaries while fleecing pension funds; a citizenry that fears its elected officials are bankrupting their children's future. The American people are frustrated that last October the Congress abdicated their Constitutional role of deciding the issue of war and peace. They feel betrayed by a Democratic Party establishment that rolled over and provided no opposition, no debate, to a mistaken war and continued attacks on our civil liberties.

"It shows a growing number of people who want to break the inertia in both our economy and politics, an inertia that only benefits established corporate interests and does nothing to solve our problems in healthcare, the environment, and job creation.

"The citizens in this report understand the fate of this country is in their hands. Only they have the power to exact change in their country. By getting involved, they have chosen to take on the responsibility of citizenship. Nearly half-a-million Americans have joined our campaign to take our country back from a politics of cynicism and an economy that works for too few, and nearly a quarter million have contributed what they can to help us build the greatest grassroots campaign presidential politics has ever seen. The stunning collective effect of their individual action is documented in today’s report for all to see.

October 15th, Burlington VT. Amelia Youngblood (L) and Addy Gross (R) with the record setting 12,000 page Q3 Federal Election Commission report. Photo John Pettitt / DeanForAmerica.com

Posted by Joe Rospars at 12:58 PM
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/001878.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=60933

Final 2nd Quarter People-Powered Howard Report: $7.6 Million Raised
Howard Dean today announced that 73,226 Americans joined together to raise over $7.6 million for the Dean for America campaign in the second filing quarter which ended on June 30. A total of 83,041 individuals have contributed to the campaign overall.

"This campaign is about bringing people back into a political process that for too long has been dominated by Washington insiders out of touch with real Americans,” said Dean. “Behind each of these contributions are the stories of Americans who want to take their country back, and they are making a huge difference."

Fundraising Facts:

Of the 83,041 donors overall, only 891 have maxed out, enabling over 82,000 of them to continue to contribute funds to the campaign in the future.
The average donation to the campaign was $88.11, demonstrating that Americans are participating directly in their democracy, giving what they can to reclaim their government.
Over 62,000 donors gave for the first time to Dean for America this quarter, demonstrating the momentum and growth of the campaign.

http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000691.html

Dean Raises $7.5 Million in Second Quarter (rough report)
In the second quarter ending yesterday, 59,000 Americans donated an average of $112 to help boost Governor Howard Dean to the top of the second quarter fundraisers with a total of $7.5 million raised.

Unlike the small, exclusive multi-million dollar fundraisers held in major cities by President Bush over the last week, the Dean campaign saw its numbers surge based on small donations over the Internet—with nearly $3 million raised online in the last week alone. In the second quarter, 45,030 people donated online a total of 51,474 times. The average donation online was $74.14.

“When we said last week during the governor’s announcement that ‘You have the power,’ we had no idea just how much power our supporters had,” said Campaign Manager Joe Trippi. “They are people participating directly in their democracy, and doing whatever they can to help us take our country back—giving $20, $30, or $50. This is People-Powered Howard.”

Second quarter fundraising by the numbers:

Total raised in second quarter: $7,500,000 Total donors (2003 to date): 70,000
Average contribution: $112

First time donors in second quarter: 48,000

Levels of Internet Giving:
Less than $50: 18,422
$50 -- 99: 11,579
$100 -- $249: 11,436
$250 -- $499: 2,379
$500 -- $1,000: 368
$1,000 and up: 129

http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000584.html

Extremely massive information dump on Gov. Howard Dean, M.D. (v2.0)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=41214
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 03:09 PM
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25. Here's a site you might find interesting
It breaks down campaign contributions by some insightful critera including geographical distribution.

http://www.fundrace.org/
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:42 PM
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27. That is a great website! Thanks so much!
From the web site:
=================================
Avg Income of Donors This Quarter Last Quarter

Joseph I Lieberman #1 $74.5k
John F Kerry #2 $71.9k
George W Bush #3 $66.7k
Wesley Clark #4 $64.4k
Richard A Gephardt #5 $64.3k
Howard Dean #6 $62.5k
Alfred C Sharpton #7 $60.5k
John Edwards #8 $58.8k
Dennis J Kucinich #9 $58.0k
Carol Moseley Braun #10 $55.8

Fascinating!
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