Who are the 3 Dems you'd LEAST like to see win Nomination?

[catherineD]

Mine would be Lieberman, Gephardt and Dean.

[bobthedrummer]

1. Leiberman,Sharpton, Clark.

n/t

[frustrated_lefty]

It would be helpful

if you offered some substantive reason for your judgment, otherwise this is just baseless criticism.

[La_Serpiente]

2. Lieberman, Gephardt, that is it.

[tsipple]

3. Before this thread gets locked...

(1) Lyndon LaRouche, (2) Hillary Clinton (since she said she's not running, even though the right-wing wackos continue to perpetuate the myth), (3) any one of the candidates listed at DC Political Report who's technically running for the Democratic nomination but is not one of the nine participating in the debates.

(On edit: Corrected typo.)

[greyowl]

27. deleted

[citizen snips]

4. Kucinich, Carol, and Lieberman.

They are very behind and I don't think they will win.

[greyowl]

28. It must be nice not having to think for yourself

MATTMAN (67 posts) Sat Dec-13-03 03:47 PM
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4. Kucinich, Carol, and Lieberman.

Right...let the media decide for you. Thats the way Democracy works these days isn't it?

[salin]

5. Is this helpful? Does it do anything but spur on the ugly... will x fans

vote for another dem if x doesn't win? And other ugly divisive related threads?

Reminds me of "slam" books when I was a kid. A notebook would be passed around. On each page a different question - that everyone would answer and then initial. Most of the questions were really pretty petty and ugly... ala "who do you hate most... q or z...?"

[catherineD]

7. Made you look.

But you didn't have to. It would be interesting to find out how many rather active Democrats have fairly strong bad feelings about some of the other Dems. Where we'd anticipate that they'd still vote for them, but not go that extra mile with money and grassroots help in the general election.

[DFLforever]

6. Gephardt, Lieberman, Sharpton

...the most unworthy of the unworthy.

[PSR40004]

8. Kerry, clark and sharpton

I don't think I would vote nationally if it's any of these...

[OrAnarch]

9. lieberman kerry clark

For sure all 3 would gaurentee me the idea of leaving the country.

[imhotep]

10. Clark is the only one

The rest have proven themselves as lifetime Democrats with real political experience.

[deminflorida]

12. Nader I hear has openings for supporters....

I'm sure he'll hook ya up if Clark gets the nomination.

[MisterP]

11. Lieberman, Edwards, Gephardt

[IndianaGreen]

13. I oppose all of the prowar candidates!

It would take some movement in our direction from someone like Kerry, something along the lines that the invasion of Iraq was WRONG and that he is sorry about voting for IWR. Kerry has long liberal credentials, but he has to recognize the futility and wrong headedness of this war. I don't think Kerry is capable of ever admitting he was wrong. Clark's entry into the race has made Kerry more irrelevant than ever.

[SaveElmer]

14. Kerry, Gephardt, Lieberman

Of those that have a real shot. I don't consider Kucinich, Moseley-Braun or Kucinich to have a real chance (as much as I like them).

[loyalsister]

61. I concur

n\t

[Mattforclark]

15. Sharpton, Kucinich, Mosely-Braun

Because they have the least chance at beating Bush.

[greyowl]

26. But a Republican named Clark does?

Well I guess it would be novel to have two Republican's compete for the white house in the next runoff. No need for election fraud then.

[Rowdyboy]

32. How nice! Someone has decided to be in charge of deciding

who's a Democrat and who isn't. Thank you so much for your imput. I'm sure your opinion will get the attention here it deserves and I'll be sure to file it appropriately...

Wesley Clark: All Patriot, No Act

[greyowl]

46. Thats what this thread is all about...or can't you read?

[Skidmore]

16. Lieberman, Gephardt mostly.

nt

[ochazuke]

17. Sharpton, Leiberman, Dean

Though I like Sharpton best of the three (at least rhetorically), the country would figure that the Democratic party has gone nuts.

Leiberman has a good record in the Senate, but he is a lousy debater and campaigner. The average joe is turned off by his voice, which sounds like he's trying to overcome a severe case of constipation.

Dean is great in appealing to the frustration that all good Americans feel with the current situation, but his own record is among the most conservative of the candidates and he doesn't fit the central casting requirements of a presidential candidate.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

18. Lieberman, Gephardt, and Kerry

The last two are only on the list because of the infamous commercial. If it comes out that they didn't have anything to do with it, then their names are off the list.

[goodhue]

19. Dean, Lieberman, Clark

[UrbScotty]

20. Joe, Al, and Carol. (nt)

[DoctorMyEyes]

21. Lieberman

Lieberman or Lieberman

[maxanne]

22. hello newbie

There's a lot more to DU than candidate bashing. Feel free to roam around and discover.

[oasis]

23. Al S., CMB, Joe L.

[Endangered Specie]

24. Geppy, Holy Joe, Sharp

Gephardt will be beaten up over his negative paranoia style.

Joe, obviously, an elephant in donkey clothing.

If we show the world that we are serious about Sharpton, we will be tombstoned faster than a freep on DU.

Too bad its not the '5 dems' bc then it would be kucinich and braun too.

[Name removed]

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[OrAnarch]

35. Gotta disagree...

Firstly, if we could nominate James Baker or Condi Rice, and hypothetically they had the chance of beating bush, I wouldn't support them. There must be a point where you draw the line of how many of your values you are willing to compromise for success in an election. Because if the new boss is the same as the old boss, but with a prettier smile, doesn't look like much was accomplish for the party nor the people.

Secondly, you must also realize that whoever inheirets this mess has the chance of becoming the largest scapegoat in American history (refer to the Weimar republic and Hitler's counter movement for contrast). This person must have the tools to deal with the problems, or they will inevitably be setup as a right wing propaganda tool for reelection time and a movement to an extremist state. We therefore cannot just elect anyone who has a chance of winning, because if that person does not have the experience to deal with our problems, they may do far more harm to America that another 4 more years of Bush.

There must be a point we pragmatically look at the effect a candidate will have on this country, its people, and history. If we must compromise our values to find someone who will appeal to the right, than perhaps its time to just concede the election in the first place and stand for something (or reach out and lead the right, through correct teaching, into the center). If we recognize that still this person may be nothing but a scapegoat of Bush's failure due to a lack of executive experience, perhaps then is another time to realize that winning may not be in the interests of the American people or the democratic party. Afterall, another 4 more years of Bush would lead to bankruptcy and a failure so obvious that Fox could not ignore it, and hence, lead a reactionary movement against the right.

I am not advocating that anyone concedes anything at this point. But rather, I advocate that we must align our candidate with our prioritized values and not compromise anything, and furthermore, must make sure such a candidate will not simply be a a figurehead which works in an election, but is powerless in office. If either condition is not met, then by all means, brace for the future is my advice.

[Ediacara]

29. Lieberman, Kucinich, Edwards

Lieberman for reasons that should be obvious.... Kucinch and Edwards.... it's a gut thing, I don't trust them, but I am not sure I can actually quantify it.

[DjTj]

50. ...Kucinich and Edwards?

...because you don't trust them. I wouldn't have expected anyone to paint those two as the least trustworthy.

And with Kucinich being the polar opposite of Lieberman, your 3 really are interesting and definitely caught my eye...

[greyowl]

30. I can think of eight off the top of my head

[AntiCoup2K4]

31. At this point, Kerry, Gephardt, and Lieberman.

Gephardt and Holy Joe were pretty much there anyway. Kerry has been a much more recent addition.

[GreenPartyVoter]

33. Lieberman, Gephardt...

am leaving the door open on the others, though the war vote is a black mark on those who voted yes. Ditto on Patriot Act.

[SEAburb]

34. Dean, Lieberman, Sharpton //nt

<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>

[arwalden]

36. Lieberman, Lieberman, Lieberman

He's the only one. I like all the rest and will support the winner unconditionally.

-- Allen

[sendero]

37. this is a great thread..

.... for me to POOP on!

[jpgpenn]

38. Dean.Dean and Dean

in that order!

[TexasSissy]

39. Dean, Kucinich, Sharpton

I love Kucinich, but I don't think he has a chance. Same thing with Sharpton. Dean has a chance, but not a good enough chance. Plus he just doesn't appeal to me...there's something about him that I haven't cared for from the beginning. Can't put my finger on it.

[billbuckhead]

40. Dean...........

Dean and Dean. I don't trust Lieberman or Sharpton much either.

[Walt Starr]

41. All eight other candidates besides Dean

No compromises. Nobody but Dean.

[Bucky]

43. on behalf of George, Karl, and Ralph, I thank you

[Walt Starr]

51. George, Karl, Joe, John, Dick, Wesley

All the same if you ask me.

[Bucky]

42. As a Clark supporter, I always vote for Clark in every poll

[frustrated_lefty]

44. Gephardt, Clark, and Edwards.

[MuseRider]

45. Dean, Dean, Dean

Sorry, I do not trust him, have no clue where he really stands on anything. Personally he kinda creeps me out. I KNOW where Lieberman stands although I do not want to have to vote for him either but at least I know where he stands.

[arewethereyet]

47. Clark, Dean, Clinton

of the more likely possibilities...
I don't think Clinton is all that likely but she is nore likely than some of the ones actually running. No offense, its just the way I feel.

[Bill of Rights]

48. Bruan, Sharpton, Kucinich

only because they would be least likely to beat Bush. Eyes on the prize!

Personally, I like them all very much.

[PretzelWarrior]

49. Zell Miller, Dan Rostentowski, Maria Shriver

x

[jmags]

52. Braun, Sharpton, and Lieberman

Because they haven't a chance in hell of winning - although I'd still vote for them.

[Tinoire]

53. The ones

who have the most supporters asking other candidates to drop out, saying other candidates are unelectable, resporting to weak, manipulative rallying cries like ABB, and thinking that if other candidates drop out, they'll automatically get those votes :)

[liberalcapitalist]

54. I like ALL NINE candidates!

That being said, my bottom three are Lieberman, Gephardrt, and Kerry-- and I REALLY like Kerry, too!

[WhosNext]

55. Sharpton, Lieberman, Mosley-Braun.

[liberalcapitalist]

56. you just hate Blacks and Jews!!

JOKE!

[dpibel]

57. Zell Miller, John Breaux, Al From

Oh! You meant of the declared candidates...

[ThirdWheelLegend]

58. Since all are electable... I go with Dean, Lieberman and undecided

I can't decide on a third.


TWL

[alphafemale]

59. Only Lieberman and Kuchinich of those running now. If forced to choose,

But only because they are each at extreme ends of the spectrum.

I'd vote for either one if nominated though.

And, my disgust of Nader will turn to active opposition and loathing if HE runs again.

[Blade]

60. Lieberman, Gephardt, and Clark

I don't trust Clark for some reason....and I don't need to explain myself. Althought, any three I just mentioned would all be great leaders, hell, exponentially better than the Shrub.

[Piperay]

62. Sharpton, Kucinich & Dean

all of them will be tarred with the dreaded "liberal" brush (whether they are very liberal or not) and none of them will beat Bush. :-(

[morgan2]

63. Clark, Dean, Gephart

Lieberman I could live with then I'd have no dilema about voting Green. Clark, Dean and Gephart at least pay some lip service to what I want. Dean and Gephart's records don't really back it up so I wouldn't want them. Clark has no record so I would never trust him to be President until he proved himself.

[Cheswick2.0]

64. this thread is garbage

I see no positive outcome to this discussion. I think you know that. Before you make some snarky comment about how I shouldn't have looked at the thread, let me tell you why I did. I looked because I wanted to let you know what I thought of this divisive garbage.
I am suprized how many Duers bothered answering it.

[morgan2]

66. its good to see whose disliked

and why.

[Sugarbleus]

65. Dean, Lieberman, Clark... although..

I would be happy to see anyone of them in some cabinet position in the New Presidency....

[spooky3]

67. Zell Miller, Lyndon LaRouche, and me.