Dirty tricks against Dean in NJ?

[dajabr]

Also this week, there were signs that critics of Dean, the former governor of Vermont, are trying to use the Middle East issue against him.

Households in at least one heavily Jewish region of New Jersey have been receiving faxes claiming to be from Dean's campaign promising to ''end support for Israel in favor of even-handedness'' and to ``promote greater understanding and tolerance of Islamic teachings.''

The faxes carry the letterhead ''Dean for President'' and ''Dean for America,'' the correct name for Dean's campaign, and one even cites his endorsement this week by Gore -- but tout fake positions clearly designed to mislead readers about Dean.

Campaign officials said late Thursday they are investigating the origin of the faxes.

More: http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/politics/7477054.htm

[HFishbine]

1. I swear to God

if this is from a democratic opponent, it will be enough to make me not vote for him.

[creativelcro]

3. Doesn't the FAX print out the number of the sender ?

Is it true, first of all ? Links ? In addition to the one you provided ?

[dajabr]

5. The fax thing was odd...

Maybe a broadcast fax to residential numbers with some kind of number ID blocking?

:shrug:

[creativelcro]

7. is it even legal to send unsolicited FAXes of this sort ?

[slinkerwink]

15. who else is competing in NJ?

[dajabr]

41. November 13, 2003 - Lieberman & Dean tied among Dems

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x8856.xml

[Tinoire]

19. Deleted / Wrong thread n/t

[Walt Starr]

27. If this is from a Democratic opponent who also is affiliated with

the Osama attack ad, I will actively campaign against him should he win the nomination.

[Tinoire]

32. Well Walt... I have been thinking since I first saw that video

that this smelled to high heaven and the thought crossed my mind. Too many dots with stuff I'd looked at in the last 8 months were lining up.

The two, make that three (e-mail, fax and video) are strangely similar.

[Walt Starr]

37. Well, I'm officially a Deanocrat

and am now for NBD.

[Tinoire]

40. I'm sorry to hear that though I understand you

I'm basically a NBK/NBS person but I trying very hard to leave options open for all of them. Varying rates of success ranging from about 70% - 1%.

[slinkerwink]

2. smells like Rove

[never cry wolf]

4. Definitely

he learned his dirty ticks well back in '72.

[HFishbine]

16. That does it then

I'm not voting for Bush!

[blm]

6. This sounds more like the Jewish hardliners

who are mad at Dean for his public gaffes even though he already backed down. There was an email similar to these faxes that was posted just last week here at DU. A warning to Jews.

I doubt this is any campaign doing this.

[Tinoire]

20. Jews for Clark

Not sure it's any one campaign but my money is on a group like this one, if not this particular group, and I do remember the posts of several of the earlier Clark supporters at DU where they made certain things very clear to Dean-supporting Jews. Jews for Clark already did something similar via e-mail. Leap to fax is logical.

Totally despicable.


Clark's stance on Israel is much more hawkish than Dean's (whose is already not fair enough for me) and it's one of the things I've been paying very keen attention to.

Article from the Forward which is a the oldest Jewish Paper in America and the voice of Democratic socialism in the US. Definitely a conscientious publication!

Jews for Clark

As retired general Wesley Clark campaigned at a large synagogue in south Florida this week, one of the grassroots groups supporting his campaign, “Jews for Clark,” was spreading the word about the general with an e-mail message that raised some eyebrows at Clark's campaign headquarters in Little Rock.

<snip>

The e-mail message puts Clark’s foreign policy experience front and center, appealing to Jews as liberal internationalists who worry that President Bush has alienated international support for America through his actions.

“There are many in our community who think George Bush’s support for Israel and Middle East intervention is good for our interests,” the message continues. “But if you look at the bigger picture, you see a major erosion of American power and influence in the world and an erosion of American ideals at home — and this has major implications for both Israel and the Jewish community.

<snip>

The message also takes a huge whack at the presumed frontrunner, former Vermont governor Howard Dean.

"Howard Dean is not an alternative," it says. "His support for Israel is lukewarm. He is too close to the radical left, where anti-globalization and anti-Israel sentiments go hand-in-hand. And, he doesn’t have the stature to win. The Bush people will eat Howard Dean for lunch."

<snip>

Dean’s adviser for Jewish affairs, Matt Dorf, blasted back at the Clark campaign. “Wesley Clark needs to decide what kind of campaign he going to run, whether he’s going to allow supporters to distort opponents’ records, or whether he’s going to distance himself from them and shut them down,” Dorf said. Caplan, Dorf said, “is not saying it’s not true. They’re trying to have it both ways. Howard Dean’s support for Israel and for Middle East peace is second to none.”

<snip>

http://www.forward.com/campaignconfidential/2003_11_30_archiveindex.html

[SahaleArm]

23. The Jewish Conspiricy? That's the ticket...

Dean’s adviser for Jewish affairs, Matt Dorf, blasted back at the Clark campaign. “Wesley Clark needs to decide what kind of campaign he going to run, whether he’s going to allow supporters to distort opponents’ records, or whether he’s going to distance himself from them and shut them down,” Dorf said. Caplan, Dorf said, “is not saying it’s not true. They’re trying to have it both ways. Howard Dean’s support for Israel and for Middle East peace is second to none.”

The entire Dean campaign is about distorting records. Not to mention Dean has AIPAC members on his foreign policy team so I doubt he's lukewarm on Israel.

:tinfoilhat:

[PaDUer]

24. Jewish...

Lieb, Dean, and remember the article today about Rendell saying what he thought should be pres...Rendell's also jewish..who was head of DNC..Something fishy going on.

[SahaleArm]

26. I hope you are being sarcastic...

:tinfoilhat:

[Tinoire]

28. I think what we have here are over-zealous groups of

partisan supporters. What I'd love to know is just how disassociated some of these groups really are from the campaign HQs. When I think of the names Lehane, Fabiani, and Hlinko (co-founder of Draft Clark and President of a company called "Extreme Campaigns") I have to ask myself if there are any scruples left between the 3.

About Jews for Clark

Jews for Clark was initially created as part of the draft movement to encourage General Clark to run for President and is now working to get the General elected. <snip/Forward article>.

Founders

Michael Hoffman

Michael Hoffman is the President of Hoffman Media Group, an Internet development and consulting firm based in Chicago. He grew up in Baltimore where his mother, Barbara Hoffman, was a Democratic State Senator for 20 years and is now part of a fabulous Washington-based consulting and lobbying firm called The Artemis Group. Hoffman started his career as a political consultant, working on high-profile Democratic campaigns for Richard Schlackman. Hoffman lived in Jerusalem for five years until 2001. <snip>

Daniel Alpert

Daniel Alpert is a producer, director and editor whose films have been nominated for Academy and national Emmy Awards and have aired on PBS, HBO, A&E and on television and at festivals around the world. Alpert is President of Axial Productions, a television production company that creates innovative, engaging and entertaining documentaries. He recently directed, produced and co-wrote A History of God, a two-hour documentary special for A&E Networks. From 1995-1999 he co-produced and edited Legacy, a feature length documentary for HBO, which was nominated for a 2001 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature and was an official selection at the 2000 Sundance Film Festival. Alpert also produced No Time To Be A Child, a National Emmy nominated series for PBS. A native of Chicago, Alpert received his formal training in film and television at Tel Aviv University, Israel. <snip>

Avi Green

Avi Green is a political activist and businessman living in Davis, California. He is a co-founder of Israel Outdoors!, a leading organizer of birthright israel trips. Through these programs, Green is responsible for bringing thousands of young adults to Israel on free trips sponsored by the birthright israel initiative. Green also has a professional background in management consulting, new media marketing, and the applied economics of Arab-Israeli commercial cooperation. Green is a graduate of Akiba Hebrew Academy in Philadelphia and holds a bachelors and masters degree in Foreign Service from Georgetown University.

:tinfoilhat:

[SahaleArm]

36. John Hlinko - Also co-founder of Move-On

But since they get money from Soros... :tinfoilhat:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

30. Clark camapaign knew nothing about the e-mail, disavowed the group

Funny how you missed THAT part

Clark's Jewish outreach coordinator, Greg Caplan, told the Forward that he hadn't seen the message until receiving it from the Forward and he practically disavowed the group. "We have a lot of grassroots groups," Caplan said. "Some we are in closer coordination with than others....It's a free country. People are allowed to do whatever they want. There's no relation between us and them."

[Tinoire]

34. Words are cheap- very, very cheap.

Lehane and Fabiani are famous for cheap words as is the entire DLC.

[SahaleArm]

38. And guilt by association is even cheaper *nm*

[Tinoire]

42. Of course it is. How often have we heard that here! n/t

[stickdog]

21. Of course not. It's just another well-funded spontaneous grassroots effort

to keep the perpetual war status quo.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Dean is okay to Abraham Foxman of the ADL

And several national Jewish leaders, after meeting privately with Dean in the wake of his earlier remarks, left the meeting saying they were comfortable with his positions. One of the Jewish community's most important leaders, Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman, called the anti-Dean efforts ''hot and heavy'' and based on ''dis- and misinformation,'' according to the Jewish Week of New York.

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/politics/7477054.htm

[quinnox]

9. Dean is such a victim

Oh this is terrible, how can anyone dare to attack Dean!

This is beyond the pale.

[LoZoccolo]

10. Name me one time...

...where the Dean campaign has sent out stuff disguised as another campaign's propaganda.

Oh.

[LuminousX]

11. Please, give it a rest. Honest attacks are fine, dirty tricks aren't

And you would be one of the first to defend your candidate against bs like this? Right? Or would you just let it happen with nary a word?

[quinnox]

13. Just a little tired of the victim card

being played lately by the Deanies.

Dean ain't lily white, folks.

[Cha]

17. No...Dean will never be a "victim"...the

people who are doing it are just assholes.

[stickdog]

22. So you support faked bs policy papers as a campaign strategy? (nt)

[maddezmom]

12. cripes ~ this is really starting to get ugly

No one should be doing this... :(

[TheWebHead]

14. there's been a Jewish man calling into Randi Rhodes

a few times that has been bringing this up too, claiming he was getting e-mails making this claim... twisting the "even handedness" remark.

[PaDUer]

25. LOTS of fishes

in the sea...keep eyes wide open on freeps...as one said today on their thread, they're sending $$ to Dean so he's the nominee, so Bush can eat him alive and * wins..

[ldf]

33. dean should take all the money he can get from the repubs

he could have no idea of the person who sent in a donation. a dollar is a dollar.

to beat shrub all he has to do is fill his own ads with the truth.

what a novel concept!

[La_Serpiente]

18. I think they are misinterpreting Dean

I mean Steve Grossman, the former head of AIPAC, is one of his advisors.

[jenk]

29. well I haven't gotten one...

[Ksec]

31. The "Victim" role is unbecoming nt

[Myra]

35. "The "Victim" role is unbecoming"

But a powerful fund raising tool.

[janx]

39. Lots of dirty tricks everywhere, these days.

Wonder where they're coming from?

[Bill of Rights]

43. I hope Clark fans aren't involved

because these kind of attacks backfire. I doubt they would hurt Dean. And I believe they are legal. At work we get lots of junk faxes.