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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:36 AM
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My God... It's Gotten Just This Bad !!!
I just read on a couple of different threads, how the capture of Saddam will effect the DEAN Campaign!

Ha! Ha! Ha!

Shit man, the Democratic Party's party may be toast as of right now. How long did it take reality to shift the nation's eyes a tad off of 9\11?

You think this is gonna be an ADVANTAGE for ANY Dem???

I'm glad he's caught, but I'm afraid this may just guarantee another 4 year dose of the Chimpmeister.

And I REALLY hope I'm wrong about that!!!

Please let me be wrong about that!

:scared:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:37 AM
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1. I wouldn't worry
As i said on another thread the only ones who actually still cares are the die hard bush fans.. the rest have an attention span of a monkey
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:37 AM
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2. Hate to say it but I'm with you....
I'm glad they caught the dude but this administration could spin a turd as a candy bar and convince at least half the country that it's a snickers.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:41 AM
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9. LOL, Man... Can I Use That As A Sig Line Someday ???
:bounce::hippie::bounce:

Perfect!

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:39 AM
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3. Two words:
Remember Poppy.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:17 AM
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40. Yes, but. . . Poppy didn't "get" Saddam. This helps Dubya a lot

but I hope you're right that he'll be a one termer.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:39 AM
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4. What's really weird are the folks that
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 07:40 AM by LARED
have managed to convince themselves this actually hurts Bush?

I don't get it

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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:51 AM
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22. so what happens if nothing changes in IRAQ
more bombings, (like this morning)

How do we get out of there?

Do you really believe that anyone would do a suicide bombing for Saddam?
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:56 AM
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26. Hope you don't expect answers, VO.
Nice try though.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:52 AM
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23. how original -- all caps, "lib dem fags" & exclamation points.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 07:54 AM by Bertha Venation
:eyes:

This liberal Democrat married dyke says buh-bye.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:58 AM
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27. lol
If I didn't know better I would think you were making a parody of a freeper
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:10 AM
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37. oh goody! Our American Democracy is dead!
No more 2 party system! No More checks and balances! no more rule of Law! Republicans rule everything with an iron hand! All their enemies will just roll over and die now and let our beloved leader do everything he wants! Yay!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:24 AM
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44. Laura Bush? Is that you?
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:42 AM
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11. Where's Waldo?
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:44 AM
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18. 2 Years and Counting - Hell even Newsweek found him already... n/t
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 07:56 AM by SahaleArm
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molok555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:56 AM
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25. I thought he was to be first?
n/t
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:43 AM
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12. Well, we still know how to use the "CapsLock" key
so there's still hope, I think. Buh-bye.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:43 AM
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14. You've Been Waitin A Long Time For This Post, No ???
:eyes:
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LoneStarDem Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:49 AM
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20. uh
So.....what do you want on your Tombstone?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:21 AM
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42. 16 posts and a tombstone for you, silly masochist. eom
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:40 AM
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6. I doubt it.
First, the question must always be shoved to the forefront . . . where was the threat from Iraq. Whether Saddam is in custody or not is irrelevant. Where was the threat? Why did we invade Iraq?

Second, it must be shoved down Americas throat that Osama is still on the loose, Al Queda is still operational attacking Iraq did nothing to change that.

Third, just remember who was in office at the end of the last Gulf War, and who won the election right after.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:53 AM
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24. we know it's irrelevant
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 07:53 AM by Marianne
but dumb followers of Bush think the war is about gittin'Saddam,-- the bad guy who was wearing the black hat.

They think it has something to do with terrorism--the "war" on terrorism, that is.

They think the whole thing, the murder of thousands of innocents, children , babies and pregnant women, as well as the deaths of more than four hundred fifty of our troops,by the serial killer AWOL Bush, was about gittin' Saddam.

That little boy, babbly Bush had to lie to kill all of those people in the way of his spoils and oil grab, does not matter to such reptillian brains as the followers of Bush

--what matters is that the dimwitted, AWOL commander in chief, got the bad guy he promised he would. These followers are so addle brained as to probably possess the intelligence of a fruit fly when they think the war was about "gittin'" Saddam. Sand box, little two years old children playing this game--
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:00 AM
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29. I totally agree.....
It is all so obvious that we are being played like a fiddle. Manipulate the people....they will comply.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:02 AM
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30. Man... I Can't Tell Ya How Much I Hope You're Right !!!
But my faith in the political awareness of the American people is not so good, ya know???

:shrug:

Hell, 'Saddam captured' on Sunday news shows, 'Saddam captured' replaces Laci Petersen GOOD GOD, I'm listening to CNN in the Background and the celebratory gunfire in Bagdad is continous. (according to CNN)

Point is... this is a DEFINITE feather in the cap of *, the BFEE, PNAC, and Fox News. Please feel free to add to the list.

Can we overcome it? Will future events turn the tide?

All I want is Jr. out of power. Please Santa...

:puke:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:04 AM
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31. My point is . . .
That Poppy Bush was said to be a shoe in for reelection after Gulf War I as well.

Didn't happen.

The election ain't over until the Supreme Court that is bought and paid for says it is :).
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:09 AM
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36. I Agree, And There's Still A Year To Go...
My original post was about how some, in other threads, had limited this to the effect it would have on just the Dean Campaign. I suggest, that whatever effect it has, will be visited upon all Dems to one degree or another. The politics of fear, demands results. Ole Pretzel face just counted coup!!!

:shrug:
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ma4t Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:25 AM
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45. If it's irrelevant then why was it made an issue in the past?
I clearly recall more than one of the presidential candidates commenting on the fact that "we don't know where Saddam is" during the many debates. Why bring that up if it is irrelevant?

I find it hard to believe that the capture of Saddam is irrevelant in the eyes of the average Iraqi. Frankly I imagine it is far from irrevelant in the eyes of many in the Middle East.

Finally, if it is irrelevant, why are there so many threads today on DU about the capture?

The simple answer is that this is NOT irrelevant. To pretend so is just whistling past the graveyard. This is a significant event. It may turn out to be a plus or a minus for Bush depending on how things are handled but it will not turn out to be irrelevant.

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This message has been brought to you by the Dept. of Reality.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:40 AM
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7. You probably right.
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impeach the gop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:40 AM
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8. If Dean continues to fight for us
and continue to stand up to the terraist bush regime and his war crimes against the US. If not, we're fucked.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:46 AM
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19. All I Was Suggesting Was The Stupidity Of The...
"This is really gonna screw up the Dean campaign" take on all of this. My God!!!

:wtf:
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:43 AM
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16. Not if the attacks continue
...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:44 AM
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17. But, Goldstien is still on the loose
Yes, former BFEE trainees and agents at large Manuel Moriega, and Saddam Hussein have been captured. And former CIA asset Osama bin Laden may be next (closer to election time).

But Goldstien is still at large. The struggle goes on.

We have always been at war with terrorism.

Big Bush Loves You.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:59 AM
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28. forgive my ignorance -- who is Goldstien, please?
thanks
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:09 AM
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34. it's from the book 1984--the dictatorship always had a bogeyman
for the rabble to hate. That was Goldstein.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:12 AM
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38. Thank you.
Must. Read. Orwell.
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kaybea Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:32 AM
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46. Goldstein is the imaginary bogeyman
created by the Inner Party of Oceania in George Orwell's "1984".
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:49 AM
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21. No it is ALL DEAN, ALL the time. This really shows how low we have
gone. I say we because Dean is a democrat and his supporters are democrats as well.
Now I suppose everyone Rush and the gang are watching DU and waiting to see what we say.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:05 AM
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32. So what? He still didn't have anything to do with 9/11
So we captured Daddy Bush's Man in Baghdad. Oh goody, another head for il Ducce to wave over the clueless, cheering rabble.

How does this help the Iraqi People? By celebrating that this will help the Shrub in the election they are admitting this whole mess had nothing to do with the liberation of Iraq, and everything to do with swaying the American voters. Not that they were fooling anybody.

Iraq is still ruled by a dictator. It's just a foreign one with a Texas accent.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:06 AM
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33. I don't think it's so great
the attacks will not stop in Iraq and we still don't have the guy behind 9/11. Sure Saddam was a bad guy but he's not the one who flew planes into buildings and killed 3000 people.

Plus, at the rate we're going coupled with a promise from insurgents that attacks will pick up, we're probably going to catch up with Saddam's Iraqi body-count eventually.

Julie
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:09 AM
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35. You're wrong about that.
And you're also wrong if you think ALL the Democratic candidates are not making preparations and writing statements about this event right now.

It's ALL politics.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:12 AM
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39. Please See Posts 19 and 36 !!!
Pretty Please???

:hi:
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:18 AM
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41. Fine.
Just try wording your original post more carefully next time.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:23 AM
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43. If the Iraqi's now hate us more today, than they did before we started
bombing their country, how is it an advantage for Bush?
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:32 AM
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47. He wasn't suposed to be caught until November
What do you bet he has been in custody all along.......Had to do something
Halliburton, 4 countries against us...Ole boy had to be turned lose and then captured....I cannot believe at least half of America is buying the propoganda..We all predicted this would happen when thing got hot !
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