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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:01 AM
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Forget Bush, take a moment to be happy for Iraqis today
He was an evil tyrannt, and they are happy he is toast.

I think we can all relate.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:03 AM
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1. Here, Here
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 08:30 AM by ColdnGrey
I'm extreamly happy for the Iraqi people today and the soliders over there who are hopefully a giant step close to getting to come home to their familes.
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impeach the gop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:03 AM
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2. Yeah, you're right
May we all have peace on earth now.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:03 AM
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3. i just wonder if they still care
I'm sure they have other stuff to worry about .. like their country going to hell
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:05 AM
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4. Yes.
Maybe people can broaden their vision a little wider than their candidates' latest press release as well...
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:05 AM
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5. I'm glad he is toast
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 08:06 AM by incapsulated
I don't think it will make a damn bit of difference in their daily lives.

But, it's justice, even if from the wrong people. (us)
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:08 AM
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6. they are so happy to trade a hometown tyranny for a foreign one
yippee.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:11 AM
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11. The families of the people he murdered are happy
Can't you at least acknowlege that? How would you feel?

Or is this going to turn into a Bush is as bad as Saddam thread?

I will be just as happy when we leave and give that country back to it's rightful owners. And I'm sure they will celebrate then too!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:09 AM
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7. oh yes, I am so happy for them and their ravaged country
and so happy for their oil, and so happy for their lack of regular electricity, medicine, food, etc.

SO VERY HAPPY!

Thank you, America!

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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:10 AM
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8. Yes we can
My whole beef with this invasion has been about the innocents there.

Not everyone is political.

What about the poor guy just trying to support his family. First he had to deal with Saddams' regime. Then he has to deal with 10 years of sanctions that did nothing to curtail the atrocities of Saddam, it just hurt the people trying to survive.
Next he gets a "shock and awe" campaign that rained bombs down on his neighborhood.

Finally he has something to celebrate.


While I was and still am against the invasion, I'm happy that the innocent Iraqi's finally have a day to feel good.

Sadly, I think the happiness will be short lived. The killings will get worse. It's still a quagmire with no end in sight. The innocents are still suffering. We need to leave.

* got the man who tried to kill his daddy. Now give the country to the people of Iraq.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:11 AM
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9. Very true
:kick:
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:11 AM
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10. Indeed...
Let us just hope that the old boss isn't replaced by an equally bad boss.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:13 AM
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12. I am sure the guy who lost his entire family due to US bombs is happy
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:18 AM
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21. Yes, that negates EVERYTHING Saddam has done
Long live Saddam!

This is GOP talking points.

"If you are against the war, you are for Saddam."

Well, I ain't for any tyrannt, buddy.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:22 AM
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26. Don't understand your post
Saddam is a bad guy, but there are families in Iraq that were torn apart and innocent civilians that were killed due to this action taken by the US. Sorry, I cannot be happy for the actions Bush has taken. I didn't say you were for tyranny so why are you telling me you aren't?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:01 AM
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33. I didn't say I was happy because of anything Bush did
In fact, in my post I said "forget Bush".

My point was, we have gone over and over the evil of this war and what it has done to the Iraqi people. It is all true.

But we shouldn't forget that Saddam was an evil bastard, and that there are Iraqis that are joyful that he has been caught, even if we disagree with how he was caught.

To bring up what we have done, in response to that, seems like saying, "what does it matter, we killed people too." Well, it matters to those who suffered under Saddam as much as putting Bush in jail would matter to those we bombed.

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:14 AM
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13. Absolutely.
The 'monster under the bed' has been neutralized, and I share their happiness. :thumbsup:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:15 AM
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14. but but but I thought it was all about WMDs!?!?!?!?
I'm confused!!!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:15 AM
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15. I think this is great news for the Iraqi people....
as there was always the fear of Saddam returning. I wonder, though, if this will cause the Iraqi people to expect things in Iraq to change quickly which they won't. They will still be without consistent electrical services, without fuel for their vehicles, etc. Unless Bush and his cabal can change the living conditions quickly, I have little doubt the Iraqi people will continue to be very unhappy about the occupation.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:15 AM
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16. agree with ya
He was an evil tyrannt!
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:17 AM
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17. I'm glad to see him captured...
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 08:18 AM by imax2268
it's about time...this needed to happen...

But I don't think this will stop the resistance at all...our troops are still going to be attacked...if not more...


But...Congrats to the Iraqi people...no more living in fear...at least for now...

I'm waiting for BushCo to come out and claim credit now...I'm sure he will try to claim some kind of credit...
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:18 AM
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18. there is hope
one evil homicidal psychotic manical dictator can be arrested so it follows bush will be next
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nansocal Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:18 AM
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19. how many of the iraqi people
know we are the ones who helped put this man in power. and gave him what he needed to kill people. I'm sorry but we just get rid of brutal dictators when they don't help us anymore. and the ones who suffer are the soldiers.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:20 AM
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23. you know something...
BushCo shouldn't gloat to much...this man has dirt on certain members of the BushCo administration...like Rumsy and a few other higher up's...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:18 AM
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20. The TROOPS captured Saddy today! They are the real heros. n/t
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:20 AM
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24. Wonder if they will do a made for tv movie about that
I read they captured him during his morning shave..

Should make for some great action
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:30 AM
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28. YES THEY ARE
i just know mr.awol will try to take credit as if he personally lassoed him
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:19 AM
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22. Wonderful news for the Iraqi people, for the world!
I celebrate with them!

:toast: :toast: :toast:

:bounce:

DemEx
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:20 AM
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25. yes - imagine
all the people living life in peace. you may say i'm a dreamer....
peace to the iraqi people. may they begin to know some peace.

actually, i'm still struggling with the peace through war thingie. tuff for a ghandi and MLK protege.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:27 AM
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27. This is good news for Iraqis and for democrats.
Now is the time to demand that the reconstruction of Iraq be turned over to the UN. Lots of countries have said they are willing to send lots of troops and money to Iraq if the UN is in charge. We can bring American troops and money home. Make Bush defend the continued occupation and exploitation of Iraq.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:49 AM
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32. You're absolutely right -- this is a turning point that we mustn't waste
There have been a number of turning points where we could have turned it over to UN oversight -- the first was before we went in, the second was the fall of Baghdad, the third was the elimination of the two sons. This may be our last chance. If we waste it, we'll lose the energy and goodwill generated by this event.

The capture of Saddam will not change the security situation fundamentally (foreign jihadis, fundamentalists revivalists, etc.), but it does generate good will. It's goodwill that's basically "use it or lose it." We need to capitalize on it ASAP.
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uconnyc Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:30 AM
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29. I am happy Sadam was captured
I find it sad that DUers need to put a political spin on everything.

Bush has his many faults and capturing Sadam won't change them, but there is no reason to down play or try to put a liberal spin on the capture of Sadam. This is exactly what the general American public can't stand about liberals (and yes I know Republican are the same way, but their simpleton views are easy for Americans to understand).

People can deny it all they want, but is quite apparant that many here are the types of people who root for a bad economy and the war in Iraq to go poorly, just so we can win the election.

Democrats need to stop it with the gimick politics. We analyze the issues way too much. Instead of constantly proclaiming we will win the next election on the War and the economy, we should just shut-up and run on our core values.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:33 AM
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30. Agreed, I'm jumping up and down in joy!
Woohoo! We captured the tyrant! This is going to help our/their reconstruction efforts. They needed this after all the years they've suffered under him. I'm so happy for them. This just brings us one step closer to fixing their country and getting the hell out. Woohoo!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 08:36 AM
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31. Exactly, Its obvious that many Iraqis are overjoyed
I do not know how this will affect the insurgence, but I suspect it will continue without much of a change. I could be wrong though.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:41 AM
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35. I am VERY Happy for the Iraqi People, let the Party begin for them
Bush will make hay of this as he should. He is in need for something to smile about.

Come, we help the Iraqi People make a Party, gather wood, food, drink
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:37 AM
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34. The Iraqi's went from one dictatorship (Saddam)
to another(USA), I dont think this one is to celebrate.
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