Saddam Captured, Stick a Fork in Dean, He's Done............

[deminflorida]

That's it folks, the final derailment of the Dean Campaign. It's all you going to hear from now till November. The Dictator is in custody the world is better for it, the loss of life is worth it.

If there are still attacks, which there will be, the public may sour on the war still, but (11 months, running out of time here).....and there's always the economy and

Osama Bin Laden, but.......The world is still a dangerous place, nobody can replace Bush without the experience to protect America.


"It's Time for Democrats to Think About That, And Think About It Now"

[Darwin2002]

1. What if Saddam sings about h is connections to the bushes and rumsfeld?

guess we'll never know, uh?

[rbnyc]

9. I heard he was very talkative this morning...

...of course it wasn't reported what he was saying.

[Wapsie B]

23. That's right!

Don't forget Poppy and his boys trained 'ol Saddam and was in bed with him for years. Saddam knows where the bodies are buried. I pray that he gets a full opportunity to talk.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

19. I wish, but ask Noriega

He can talk all he wants and no one will hear him. Hell the corporate media won't even cover half of the Democratic candidates who want to replace Bush, you think they'll give Saddam press to rat out Bush? Never happen.

[soothsayer]

2. huh?

ooooooooo-kayyyyyyyyyy

did you forget that bush sucks?

[illini]

3. Wow another bullshit post.

nt

[joeybee12]

4. Your comment is just too stupid ....

...but I can't pass it up.

If you think people like Dean only because of his opposition to the Iraq war, you, my friend, are totally clueless.

We might as well stick a fork in Clark--isn't he the guy with the foreign policy experience? Isn't he the one saying we went about this all wrong?

[deminflorida]

11. Yep it hurts Clark too......

But it really hurts everybody...I'll admit it. But the main thing it hurts are those who would say, We Should Have Never Gone....

[CTLawGuy]

22. didn't Clark say "we should never have gone"?????

nt

[Jacobin]

5. Gee, that's funny. I thought we invaded Iraq because of WMDs...

My brain has not been properly washed, I guess. :shrug:

[deutsey]

10. As I posted in Skinner's thread

I've been against Hussein since I protested outside the Iraqi embassy in the '80s, back when Rumsfeld et al. were pals with him. I was against the invasion of Iraq, but I was glad he was no longer in power as a result of the invasion.

I'm now happy that he has been captured and I hope some justice comes of it. I never doubted that we'd defeat Hussein and, frankly, I'm surprised he's remained free and alive this long.

However, I'm not sure I see how this hurts Dean and Clark. Removing Hussein from power was not the rationale for invading Iraq. We were told that Hussein had all these deadly weapons of mass destruction that were 45 minutes away from being launched at us, if you recall.

Dean and I believe Clark too have questioned this argument as the basis for invading Iraq. Bush Inc. never made a convincing case that gained the support of the world community so they just went ahead and did what they wanted to anyway and when WMDs were not found anywhere, suddenly Neo-Cons and Fox News were crowing about how invasion was to liberate the Iraqi people.

Dean and Clark (and Kucinich, too, although his rationale is much different than the other two) called Bush on the flimsy, disingenuous case he made for invasion, for alienating the world community and violating international law, for putting our troops in a quagmire, and for setting a dangerous precedent for "pre-emptive" wars.

It sometimes feels like I'm Winston Smith in 1984 who holds on to this scrap of knowledge that for everyone else has been sucked down the m

[rocktivity]

6. Thanks, Dean!

I think his ascendancy was precisely the reason why the war in Iraq had to be ended. The timing of his capture, so soon after talk of distributing contracts and exit strategy, is just too much.


rocknation

[TomNickell]

7. Nonsense.

If capturing S.H. meant peace and a parliamentary democracy in Iraq, Bush would be re-elected.

It doesn't and he won't.

[virtualobserver]

14. they are just hoping that it will help their candidate.

only time will tell.

[CWebster]

8. Sun comes out tomorrow, Dean's finished

the moon is in the night sky, Dean's done.

New day, a new cause to say it's over for Dean. Just like yesterday.

[cavebat2000]

12. It figures you'd say that

You ARE a clark supporter. But every democrat is going to be screwed temporarily by this. Deans campaign is the only one that even CAN beat this kind of spike in the ratings. The effect of this hurts the candidates across the board (with the exception of lieberman). So dont even try to say any single candidate is hurt more than anyone else, because thats simply not true. It sounds to me like wishful thinking.

[RandomKoolzip]

13. Yeah, I forgot...

Dean has no platform except "Where's Saddam," right? Please. "The final derailment?" Have I missed previous "derailments?"

Dean's got a LOT to offer (as does Clark-I don't want to turn this into a "my candy date is better than your candy date...") and this Capture has little or nothing to do with him.


Jeez...can we hold off on the Dean bashing on this "democratic board" until we all get our coffee? The way some people see it, Dean must be worse than Idi Amin, Saddam, and Pauly Shore all rolled into one....

[Khephra]

15. Yep, it's all over! Turn out the lights!

NOT!

Dean started his run on health issues. Even if the war was totally off-radar, he'd still have his early platform.

That and people said his campaign was over after Bush "won" Iraq. Funny thing that he's only done better since then, huh?

If you think Dean's going to suddenly lose supporters because of this, then you really don't understand the Dean campaign.

If I want to, I could spin this as being bad for every other canidate. The rest of the pack is going to get less time than ever in the media to make their case, and I make you a bet that Dean will get invited on a hell of a lot of programs to state his case--just like they've done before anytime anything went negative for Dean.

The middle of the pack candidates are the ones who just got hurt the worst.

(Spinning is fun! Get the whole familiy involved!)

[kclown]

16. Hooray! Now he can unkill all our soldiers

and restore all the missing limbs!  Now everyone can come home
to a good job in a prosperous economy!  

Late last year Andy Borowitz's headline was "Bush accuses
Saddam of hiding 1 million American jobs".

[KaraokeKarlton]

17. Just the opposite is true

Dean is very smart and will focus on the domestic issues that are of a much higher concern to Americans than whether or not Saddam is captured. It also minimizes the importance of defense in the elections.

[Walt Starr]

18. My guess is that Dean will ultimately get a huge boost from this

because my gut tells me the average number of U.S. American soldiers KIA in Iraq will raise to about three per day now.

I sincerely hope and pray to The Goddess I am wrong and Dean goes down in flames, but my gut tells me otherwise.

[comradebillyboy]

20. your thesis is bullshit

the capture of saddam will be a TEMPORARY boost for the occupation. but the imposition of israeli occupation methods in iraq will guarantee escalating resistance. also taking saddam out may well embolden non-baathists to get more aggressive and to start settling old scores.

it is a victroy for the occupation authorities, but hardly decisive. we dont see any light at the end of the tunnel yet.

[Kanola]

21. As a Clark Supporter/voter?

Do you know that the General does not agree with other candidates being "carved up"? Perhaps you should follow your candiates actions as well. Clark has been a class act for not engaging in baseless attacks on the other candidates. Too bad some of his supporters cannot follow his lead.

[Moderator]

24. Locking- Dupe

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