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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:56 AM
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Dean's Statement on Capture
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 10:57 AM by party_line

Statement by Governor Dean on the Capture of Saddam Hussein
WEST PALM BEACH-- Governor Dean issued the following statement this morning:

"This is a great day for the Iraqi people, the US, and the international community.

"Our troops are to be congratulated on carrying out this mission with the skill and dedication we have come to know of them.

"This development provides an enormous opportunity to set a new course and take the American label off the war. We must do everything possible to bring the UN, NATO, and other members of the international community back into this effort.

"Now that the dictator is captured, we must also accelerate the transition from occupation to full Iraqi sovereignty."

http://blog.deanforamerica.com/
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:59 AM
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1. That was done well
That was the best thing Dean could have said here. Also, he knows damn well and good, things are going to get uglier in Iraq now that Saddam has been captured.

My guess is they had no choice but to take him. It was probably common knowledge in the region where Saddam was hiding and the Iraqis were wondering why the hell the Americans didn't just pick his ass up.

Based upon how he looked in the pictures, he's been holed up in that hole since day one of the war.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:01 AM
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3. He took the opportunity
to speak as if we no longer have *any* need to hold on to control- nothing is stopping us from ceding control at this point. VERY good.
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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:04 AM
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5. agreed
Mission completed.

However the bloodshed will continue because it is our occupation, not Hussein supporters, that is causing all the attacks.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:05 AM
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6. Exactly--we have no reason to be there anymore
Let the Iraqis decide how they want to be governered, and how to use their oil reserves to get the things they need. The very fact that nothing less than the capture of Saddam could possibly set Dean back is a compliment to him within itself.


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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:20 AM
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11. Every reason for being there is gone now
The ever-shifting rationals for the Iraq ivasion are all gone.

WMDS? None found.

Connection to 9/11? None.

Saddamm gone? Check.

Every day we stay will be about two things: Iraqi oil and funneling taxpayer dollars to Halliburton, et al, through open ended, no bid contracts.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the Iraqi people who lived in fear of Saddam. But it doesn't change the fact that this invasion was based entirely on lies, and it doesn't excuse the atrocities we committed there.
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ldoolin Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:06 AM
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7. I suspect
I suspect B*s* was going to try and put off the capture of Saddam until right before the general election next November, wanting to time it for maximum effect on the election, but for whatever reason his advisors now convinced him it couldn't wait.

Believe me, this capture is so far before the general election that it will have *no* effect on the election.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:29 AM
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14. I am sure they would have if they could have.
I read they had a force of 600 men and you can hardly gag that many people.Three old men with 2 guns was a shock I bet. At his age he is starting to wear out and he sure looked beat up and out of it. I do not see how we could shame him any more than what we put on TV. Makes Aljazeera look like they have some taste in what they show. All this shame on the Arabs, even if he is hated, comes back to bite us. It is not something an American should be proud of. We did the TV show badly just as showing the dead sons was done badly. That is my way of thinking anyhow.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:00 AM
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2. Nice, well said Govenor Dean. n/t
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:02 AM
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4. perfect
and so less tortured and didactic than some of the other candidates.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:07 AM
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8. I saw an earlier post where clark spoke on this issue both are
very good. clark's was better, but they are both good. now the rest of the dems need to get on this message. they need to bring it up at every opportunity, we got saddam, bush did good (to tie him to the event), now bring our troops home. then sit back and watch the repugs squirm.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:07 AM
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9. here's some more quotes…
"It is a great day of celebration. President Bush deserves a day of celebration," Dean said during a brief news conference in West Palm Beach. "We have our policy differences but we won't be discussing those today."

"This, I hope, will change the course of the occupation of Iraq but I think the first order of business is to say this is a great day. I congratulate the Iraqi people," Dean said.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031214/APN/312140638
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:22 AM
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12. "This, I hope, will change the course of the occupation"
This is THE point to make.
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phirili Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:33 AM
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16. Against the IWR yet ready to have a day of celebration for Bush
Nothing on the WMD. Is Dean thinking?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:07 AM
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10. Well done
Clark and Dean both hit the nail on the head today. Kerry apparently didn't.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:22 AM
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13. Very well done!
He put the ball right back in Bush's court.
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phirili Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:30 AM
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15. Dean sounded like he supported the IWR. Nothing on WMD.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:35 AM
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18. Dean sounded like nothing of the sort.
YOU try using this news as a reason to sound like you wish he HADN'T been captured.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:33 AM
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17. Well Said
Cautious but wise
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:36 AM
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19. A very gracious statement from Dean.
Nicely done, Howie! Now, let's get back to the business of cleaning up the messes the Bush administration has made.....
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:08 PM
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23. Big foreign policy speech tomorrow too
Time to shine
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:38 AM
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20. sheesh..six hours after the fact. well at least he beat bush.
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beawr Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:38 AM
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21. Yep, Yep, Yep
Well Put Dr. Dean. I like you more every day
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:41 AM
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22. I agree with the foreign policies as stated, but I think we'll see a show
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 11:41 AM by bobthedrummer
trial during an election year. I think the insurgency will continue to grow the longer we are still in the role that Bush ordered-lying all the time to US and the world.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:13 PM
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24. Great statement
Why does Dean sound like the sanest man on the planet to me.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:52 PM
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25. Cuts to the chase, doesn't he?
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:59 PM
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26. Another good statement
I still like DK's better, but this is exactly what Dean needed to say.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:08 PM
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27. This is a good statement
Democratic presidential candidates should not let Bush off the hook for the failures of the colonial occupation.

Dean stresses the need to go forward with a different plan than the one presented by the Bushies. The US occupation must end as soon as possible.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:09 PM
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28. that's a very gracious statement!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:10 PM
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29. Very Presidential... I wonder how many Prez candidates are gonna
be "suddenly" pro war again?
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