Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

A good day for the world; we should respect our troops:

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:17 PM
Original message
A good day for the world; we should respect our troops:
Truly good news occurred today. Saddam Hussein, a ruthless, brutal and inhumane tyrant was captured. He will face trial for tens thousands of murders that he has committed, and the people of Iraq will be free from the fear of his return. As far as I’m concerned, the capture of Saddam is great thing for this world. May he rot in a jail cell with fellow mass murderer Slobadan Milosovich.

There will be a temptation by some on the right of our political spectrum to call this the end of the war on terrorism. While it certainly is progress for the world to capture Saddam Hussein, it is not the end of the war. Let us not forget who killed 3,000 Americans on September 11, 2001. It was Osama bin Laden, and his allies in the Afghan Taliban.

While we have been in Iraq, the situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated. War lords are returning, and purchasing votes at the country’s constitutional convention. Bin Laden and his Taliban allies are regrouping in the south of the country. Terrorist attacks across the world have occurred; they have been aimed at Americans and our allies. And, if the warnings are to be believed, al Qeda is gaining strength.

We know that this situation will be politicized by the president’s chief political consultant, Karl Rove. As a professional political consultant myself, I loath such tactics. Politics divides people; the people who are bleeding in Iraq and Afghanistan deserve a untied nation. Rove has said that the war is good politics for the Republicans, and he designed a successful strategy in 2002 that took advantage of the war. A relative of mine received a fundraising pitch from the RNC this week. It had a bald eagle and stars all over it (message: you’re only a patriot if you are a Republican).

We must be glad Saddam was captured. We must support efforts to expand the war in Afghanistan. But we also must criticize the president when he makes mistakes on the international scene. This week he managed to receive the ire of most of Europe, Canada, and the rest of the developed world by precluding them from bidding on rebuilding contracts in Iraq. His diplomatic follies have made the situation in North Korea--which is extraordinarily dangerous--worse.

We must able to say what we would do differently, how we will do that, and why it is important for the country to change. And we also must remind people that patriotism has nothing to do with who one votes for. There are Republican patriots, Independent Patriots, and Democratic Patriots in Iraq and Afghanistan. How dare we trivialize their sacrifices by saying you’re only a patriot if you have a certain political view. Let’s engage in the political process in way that is fair and respectful to all our men and women overseas.

Sincerely,
Michael Guss
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:19 PM
Original message
I am celebrating this SOBs capture
all freedom loving people should rejoice about this murdering pig's being put out of commission.

Now we just need to oust Bush in '04 and the world will be a lot safer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. Welcome, Michael
:hi:

We here at DU support our troops. I hope you haven't heard otherwise. No one here loves Saddam Hussein.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. Hello
Stoolie Cracked 'Mafiya'. Ex-KGB fink helped bust Russian gang.
April 5, 2001

By MIKE CLAFFEY
New York Daily News Staff Writer

http://www.americanmafia.com/News/4-5-01_Stoolie_Cracked_Mafiya.html

Seated at a table in late July at the Turf Terrace Restaurant at the race track in upstate Saratoga Springs, reputed Russian mob boss Alexander Bor posed with pals for a snapshot taken by the waiter.

Then he turned to his new friend, an enterprising young Russian who went by the name Michael Guss, and told him point-blank that the FBI had them under round-the-clock surveillance.

"They're watching as we speak," said Bor.

Guss, a one-time informant for the Soviet KGB, masked his surprise, offering Bor a skeptical look.

...more...

===

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Nice try:
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:25 PM by mdguss
Different guy using a name. I am a natural born US citizen. If you Google the name, Michael Guss, you'll find at least 7 different people. Really, it's pretty pathetic to post crap like that. I've been Michael Guss since day one. If you don't believe that, you can go look at the birth records.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Ah think he's a'funnin ya, Hoss.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. I was only kidding, dude
You've written for DU before. Just messin' with ya. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Ok
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:38 PM by mdguss
I wouldn't have been offended if you had said that from the start though. Some dipcrap Republican pulled the same crap on me. I showed him my birth certificate, and he shut up. So I find that annoying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Sorry
I thought the ---> :) <--- at the bottom gave it away. My bad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
4. When do we not respect the troops?
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:24 PM by SeveneightyWhoa
The title of this thread implies that we have to change our behaviour in order to support the troops on this particular day.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
6. YEah let's respect them by bringing them home
Oh wait they can't leave now..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. or increase their benefits....oh wait.
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:37 PM
Response to Original message
9. we cant let the media whores
give prince awol bush credit as if he personally lassoed saddam himself.The gr
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Not so much change behavior, but change focus:
If we focus on the past (the war with Iraq) we are doomed. To win, we have to focus on the future. That is what wins elections.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:34 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC