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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:31 PM
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Wes Clark will be on CNN at 8:00 P.M. Eastern
on the Paula Zahn show. Be sure to tune in! :bounce:
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:37 PM
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1. Schweet
Paula's a snappy dresser.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:55 PM
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2. Yeah, a snappy dresser.
Not to mention, a plastic surgery disaster and media whore numero uno! I'm quite surprised to see her giving airtime to Wes.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:13 PM
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3. Paula von Zahn
Takes snide to a whole new level. She's been known to snarl at Clark for entire interviews. I'll watch because of Clark, but after her display of pleasure with "shock and awe" I try never to tune in.

Does anyone remember her interview with Michael Moore? He quipped that he had used the antibacterial soap that was provided in the green room before he shook hands with her. Apparently, that's her rule. OCD von Zahn did not contradict him, just snarled and kept going.

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:51 PM
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4. kick
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:19 PM
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5. Excellent, thanksin_cog_ni_to.
Should be interesting. He's damn good at bitch slapping male media
whores, but I wonder how this officer and gentleman will handle Zahn.

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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:23 PM
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7. I think the way he'll handle her will be even better
He'll deal with her in some fashion that I bet will make her feel REALLY stupid, but somehow without being overtly insulting or hostile. That should be fun to watch, someone tell me how it goes, I can't see CNN from where I'm stuck at all day.
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:21 PM
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6. Clark has handled her well in the past...
he went after her following the "Rock the Vote" debate when she made some snarky comment about the fact that he denied marijuana use.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:02 PM
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10. LOL - Love the word "snarky"
IT crax me up.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:26 PM
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8. Well, I sure hope that I
don't have to watch Paula for a whole hour, while waiting for a 2 or 3 minute interview with General Clark. I hope he's on first!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:09 PM
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13. He'll probably be saved for the last
segment. :( I can't stand that wench....she drives me up a wall. :grr: I AM looking forward to seeing how he handles her though.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:56 PM
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9. Time for a Paula Zahn
SMACKDOWN! :bounce: Just a reminder!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:06 PM
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12. let me know what you think of the interview
:)
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:05 PM
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11. Havent heard a word about him yet.
His name isn't "Howard" so he's not quite important enough to be a headliner. Hopefully he pops up soon so I don't have to watch this propaZahnda for a full hour.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:13 PM
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14. So far it's been about Saddam, Saddam, Saddam and
Saddam.......this is going to be a long 2 weeks. Saddam will be the ONLY thing they talk about for the next 2 friggin weeks. :grr: I was sick of hearing about it after 2 hours yesterday. ENOUGH ALREADY!
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:14 PM
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15. Oh god I hope he's on soon. I can't take much more of CNN.
Zahn just announced Saddam was found "in a hole, some would say
like a rat." Gee, what stopped her from saying "rat-fink"?
Journalistic ethics?

:puke:

Oh, now they're describing how they're going to break Saddam
in non-stop interrogations. Not "torture," just make him
"very uncomfortable" for very long. Make him stand for
sustained periods, keep him in a tiny space, water may be involved,...

Unbelievable.

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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:15 PM
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16. Dean's giving a Foreign Policy speech on CSpan right now too
And it's AWESOME!
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:32 PM
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27. Thanks for kicking the Clark thread KaraokeKarlton!
Cheers!
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:08 PM
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54. Too funny! About a third of the Dean posts were digs at moi!
Then it went real silent after somebody expressed disappointment
in the speech.

But I didn't watch it so I can't give an opinion.
I was *watching Clark on CNN*.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:15 PM
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56. That's just because we were all listening to him answer questions
He hit a grand slam on every one of them. He was awesome on the Middle East...better than I've ever heard anyone on it. He was brilliant. Too bad you missed it. Now you won't know what your guy has to go up against.

Hope Clark had a good interview.
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Phelan Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:35 PM
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61. did he set out his foreign policy on the soviet union?
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:58 PM
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66. It will be re-played again in a little bit
why don't you tune in and see what he has to say. You might actually be surprised. It's going to be on C-Span again soon.

Warning...right now bumbling boneheaded Bush is stammering and stuttering so you might want to get a barf bag before tuning in!

ta ta
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Phelan Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:09 PM
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69. what a reversal
In his Hardball interview he gave particular importance to the Soviet Union in dealing with Iran...and today he didn't even mention the soviet union...is he flip flopping again



(note: just kidding on the square)
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:19 PM
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17. They haven't announced him...here he is ...coming on after the break!
eom
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:20 PM
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18. Hart was good at least...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:22 PM
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19. The wench just mentioned Wes
He's coming up to explain why he STILL thinks it was a mistake to invade Iraq. WHY would capturing Saddam change the fact that it's an illegal war, we were lied to about WMD and 1000's of people have died. :eyes:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:26 PM
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UGHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Victoria Clark!!! :puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:27 PM
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21. Can't stand the sound on
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:29 PM
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25. Finally Osama All the Time
Now isn't this interesting...not mentioned for two years and pronounced unimportant...

Now its Osama and all the terrorists.

Oh, god...it is so sad to be so deeply paranoid about this government.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:26 PM
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20. They're doing terrorists and Iraq cards...and Victoria Clarke is on now
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 08:27 PM by Gloria
Pardon me while I retch.....

"High value cards"--so cute!!!

The KING OF CLUBS-------jeez, isn't this a display of "statesmanship"???

I can't stand these people....
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:16 PM
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57. The only card game Paula is qualified to discuss is...
Old Maid
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:28 PM
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22. She's now a "contributor" to Paula Zahn Now?
How sweet.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:28 PM
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23. Ok, supposedly Clark coming up next.
eom
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:29 PM
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24. Well, they're going to look at the campaigns, and the tease is for the
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 08:30 PM by Gloria
"Is Osama Next?" "debate".

They sure are hiding Clark's appearance.....aren't they?

This is the longest I've kept Zahn on....I hope Wes appreciates this!!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:33 PM
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30. Looks like she's saving the best for last.
:(

She gave a report about the Clark testimony at The Hague. Oh, GEEEEEZ! Now we have Tucker Carlson in Baghdad. :puke: <sigh>

I can't take this. MUTE!
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:38 PM
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33. "I hope Wes appreciates this..." Me too. This is the ultimate sacrifice.
There's not enough "uck" in the world to sufficiently express
my repulsion with CNN. I wonder how many seconds they'll
give General Clark before they hustle him off to get back to comparing
Saddam to a rat in a hole and flogging Bush's "press conference"
wherein they make a point not to give us audio of the primitive
primate.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:31 PM
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26. CLARK ON NOW!! part of headlines....NOPE...Tucker Carlson is up!
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 08:33 PM by Gloria
let's see how much time they give him...CRAP! He's coming up in the NEXT HALF HOUR!!!!

What the heck is Tucker Carlson doing in Iraq, sliding on an oil slick????



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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:33 PM
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29. keep us updated
:)
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:33 PM
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28. hey look, it's Tucker
talking about the talented drivers?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:39 PM
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36. Tucker was on Crossfire today..from Baghdad
and said that the people he was with passed up a 4 mile long line of cars waiting for gas. They pulled up to the gas station, took out their guns and TOOK OVER the gas station while they pumped gas! Do you think, just maybe, that would piss a few people off? It was an unbelievable story of ARROGANCE! YOU people wait in this 4 mile long line while WE AMERICANS take the gas that WE need. :grr:
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:34 PM
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31. That's Tucker? no tie?
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:40 PM
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37. Well...the Middle Eastern Rush
just used the L-word....wooooooohooooooooo
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:37 PM
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32. OMG
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 08:38 PM by Cush
Bin Laden isn't the real threat, Saddam was?

WTF?

At least Peter Lance shot that talking point down
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:38 PM
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34. OK, now we're on to the "debate" about Osama....
A guy from the National Review vs an investigative reporter saying that Iraq was a distraction.....Peter Lance

Ramesh Ponnuru saying we can do both, dancing around the issue. Getting Iraq means we can "pacify" Iraq----hell, wasn't it "pacified" before???? There weren't any AL-Q in there before!!! What a jerk!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:39 PM
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35. what is with that guy?
Osama is no threat?
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:41 PM
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39. They ended with the comment "ignore the left wing" propaganda.
From a pundit.
Holy crap...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:41 PM
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38. OK, I think Clark is up next...as a part of the "Campaign 2004" bit
with Dean.

Would prefer they would deal with the Milosevic issue separately and not lump it in with politics....Oh, well...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:44 PM
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40. He' s ON NOW--looking VERY GOOD!
Talking about the need for justice..and the need for the PERCEPTION of justice.

Gosh, he looks great!!!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:45 PM
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42. What a shill (Paula that is)
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 08:49 PM by Cush
If you you Pres, would Saddam still be in Power?
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:49 PM
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45. Answers about justice very good...
But did you notice th disingenuous leadin? Clark believes he should have the death penalty or some such garbage that he clearly did not say.

I loathe them all and it is why we have George Bush in office.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:50 PM
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47. Next it's on to the "horse race'--God forbid we do any substantive
report on the Milosevic trial.....

Tried to get him to "hypothesize" on how Clark would have gotten Saddam out of power.
At least he made sure to say that Saddam was a secondary concern, and that the terror war would be the top concern...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:55 PM
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52. Joe Klein hyperventilating about a "breakthrough" in the selection
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 08:58 PM by Gloria
process...Sistani supposedly agreeing to "caucus" process if UN goes in to do it.....Said it could be a major breakthrough and really undercut the Dems.

New Republic guy, Peter Beinart says it will really mess up Dems. agrees with Klein.

Klein praising Hillary Clinton's speech...said she adlibbed half of it and it was very good. Said it was compelling.

Beinart said she doesn't have to worry about primaries...

That was it.

Please, I need smelling salts. I can't stand watching these shills.
Back to TVLand and Leave it to Beaver....

That's about all I can take...

I thought we'd see some of Dean's speech--NADA.

What an utterly shallow, hokey show....
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:48 PM
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44. Saying Saddam was a secondary consideration, would have focused
on the war on terror. Worked with UN on Saddam....

Political advantage to Bush? --That remains to be seen...will have to judge any lasting advange on how well the mission is done and how the benefits outweight the costs overall

Must be about 1 or 2 AM there...

He got about 2 minutes for all that...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:44 PM
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41. Pre-view said Wes thinks
they should consider the death penalty for Saddam.

War crimes trial is warranted for Saddam. Important for the region for the process to go forward.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:48 PM
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43. Do you give Bush any credit for the capture of Saddam?
The administration took us to Iraq and any credit to the administration needs to be weighed in the balance. :) No ass kissing there!

Damn! A 2 minute fu**ing interview!! What a waste of an hour! :(
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:51 PM
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48. No shinola
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:51 PM
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49. And that death penalty teaser concerned me so I was trying to catch it...
But they gave his initial remark wildly out of context.
It didn't match the shill's intro.
So I don't trust her version of Clark's thoughts.

And all of his remarks were trunkated practically in mid-syllable.
All in response to the shill propaganda set up "questions."

That was truly hidous thanks to CNN.

I would like to hear what he really said.

But I loved his comment that (rather than give Bush credit
for Saddam's capture), he would hold Bush accountable.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:50 PM
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46. Oh boy, Paula the crack reporter
If you were President would Sadaam still be in power?

:puke:


Wes answered the question well...

I would have focused on the War on Terror, Saddam Hussein was a secondary issue, would have worked that through the UN.

Paula: You have credited the troops, does the President deserve credit for getting Sadaam?

Wes: Well they certainly need to be held accountable since they took us into Iraq, need to judge costs vs benefit.
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mjv135 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:24 PM
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58. Lieberman is actually Gollum!!!
O.K. Hasn't Liebermans biggest beef with Clark been that he was for the war, but now that he's running he says he's against it? So why is he on Hardball now saying that if CLARK and Dean had their way, Saddam would still be in power? Does this mean he's finally admitting that Clark WAS against going into Iraq?

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:43 PM
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63. lol, with Joe it just depends
on what todays republican talking points are!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:54 PM
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50. He did fine
He looked natural, relaxed, and very tired. I've seen Clark crisper but I am impressed that he was able to stay on message while in a state of sleep deprivation. Just what the guy needs, jet lag on top of a full time campaign sprint schedule. He is learning the ropes on campaigning, he made sure that he used the questions that he was asked to make the points he wanted to make.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:57 PM
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53. Yeah, and I notice Zahnshill didn't mention the BushCo censoring
Of Clark's testimony.

Sure seemed like they *framed* his out of context comments to
make him sound like he was all rah rah for executing Saddam.
Then he didn't say that at all...
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:54 PM
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51. Oh god. Now that I watched CNN I feel like getting my TV fumigated.
Goddamn whores. Hardly any non-whores left...
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:12 PM
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55. Peter Jennings isn't a whore
He actually reports real news on Bush & Co.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:32 PM
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60. That's good to hear Jack_Dawson.
I haven't watched the big three anchors for quite a while.
But I'd like to think there's someone at ABC to balance
the disgraceful, *lady of the nightline, Koppel.

*New PC term according to a fellow DUer.
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mjv135 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:26 PM
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59. Whores
Actually, someone over at the Clark blog said the proper term for them now is "Ladies of the evening news"
LOL
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:38 PM
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62. Who knows what Clark really said about the death penalty?
The interview was heavily edited. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a ten minute interview and Paula's henchmen edited it down to the two "juiciest" minutes.

Is it just me or does Paula hate America? She seems to give nobody the benefit of the doubt except for the Bush administration, and attacks anybody with an opposing view.

My new name for her next show (presumably on Fox, when CNN fires her for stealing money for another disasterous plastic surgery): PropaZahnda.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:51 PM
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64. We didn't get to hear
what he ACTUALLY said about the death penalty. WHY did she use that statement in her pre-view? To make the shrub's case for the death penalty for Saddam. Safety in numbers. The more people who say he should get the death penalty, the better the shrub will look when he announces that THAT is exactly what he wants. The guy from the state of Texas.....most death penalties per year. Of course the shrub will call for the death penalty and she was just helping him by saying Clark was FOR it. I would really like to know what he actually said. :grr:
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:02 PM
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67. Well they would rather have him dead than talking about how Bush 1
gave him weapons. I think it is interesting that they are pushing the death penalty angle.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:58 PM
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65. I'm happy for Wesley Clark
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 09:59 PM by Donna Zen
He's with friends, he gave a great speech today, he's been hanging with Solonas and Jamie Rubin, out to dinner with non attackers, and best of all out of the country! Friendly territory.

The lead question had nothing to do with the answer. An obvious edit...never, never trust the Zahn. Notice that when the interview began only the tip of his nose was red, but by the end he nearly had frost bite. Two minutes--more likely 20. Yep, the best bits are only a memory on the bottom of Paula's three inch heels.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:08 PM
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68. I think that at the time of the initial interview, Saddam had not been..
captured and CNN had an "exclusive" interview with General Clark. Because Saddam was captured and Clark had been interviewed quite extensively, there was no longer an exclusive and the full interview wasn't relevant to the current "news". It is pretty bad that instead of doing a live interview they chose to cut and paste to try and salvage something given their previous advertising.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:00 AM
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70. Unfortunately, a candidate can't put themselves in the hands of media
Whore editors. Unfortunately, that describes most of the media.

Gee, if he's such a bad guy why do CNN, Tim Russert, et al
need to constantly take his partial remarks out of context?
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