Hillary on CSpan 1 NOW...kicking butt over Afghanistan and

[Gloria]

diversion of resources to Iraq.

"we had more presence on the ground in Salt Lake City during the Olympics than we have had in Afghanistan...

"have to ramp up involvement in this forgotten front"

[Cocoa]

1. chutzpah!

on Saddam De-liberation day no less!

If she loves Saddam so much, why doesn't she marry him!

[Gloria]

2. Stressing the role of the madrassas in Pakistan.....700-800,000

young men attend and therefore, a rich source of future terrorists.

She's really covering everything...inc. NATO...hasn't increased troops in Afghanistan yet....said when they were in Kabul, they couldn't even find anybody in the NATO command structure to talk to......

[Gloria]

3. Talking about maternal death rate in Afghanistan...

suggested to Karzai that he adopt a signature issue that tells Afghanis across the nation that he cares for their welfare. Maternal health care doesn't conflict with any beliefs. Kabul hospitals deliver 200 babies a day in bad conditions. Worst death rates in the world. If US helped, would send a signal about how the world cares about its mothers and children.

She's so damned smart, pragmatic, and such a clear speaker.

[Cocoa]

4. I heard their proposed constitution disenfranchises women

Joe Biden said this on Charlie Rose. I was very surprised at that.

[welshTerrier2]

5. Hillary Clinton, Corporatist

i hated that she said that it is OK that we give priority to American companies in Iraq because Americans risked their lives there and American taxpayers footed the bill for the war ...

this is what is meant by those on the left who accuse the Clinton's of selling out to corporate America ... they are both corporatists ...

so, ms. Clinton's logic is that because poor people who joined the service for economic and educational opportunities put their lives on the line in Iraq because they were ordered to do so, large multi-national corporations who have close ties to the GOP and bush should have their stockholders reap the benefits?

and because taxpayers like you and me paid roughly $150 billion, so far, we should sit back and watch no-bid contracts and their associated windfall profits accrue to the benefit of Halliburton, Bechtel and others?

this is not the right attitude to present to the rest of the world ... if we seek to "benefit our own", is it not fair to question our motives for engaging this madness in the first place?

Ms. Clinton made many good statements before the Council on Foreign Relations, but this corporatist crap was not among them ..