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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:14 PM
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What percentage of Republicans thinks Bush is great?
And what percentage thinks he sucks? Before we concede the next election, we might want to figure that number into the equation. From some of the call-ins and articles I have heard and read lately, many Republicans are not that fond of Mr Bush. If he loses a few percentage points, by not voting or voting for someone else, he is toast. Democrats are not the only Party that votes - so do Republicans. And some will not vote for Mr Bush. To the contrary, I'm hoping, the Democrats will unite behind their candidate. Otherwise, we are wasting our breath here on DU...
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:15 PM
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1. Hopefully, they will run Roy Moore on the
Constitution Party platform.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:19 PM
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2. His base
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 10:20 PM by bushwentawol
is not expanding. He's drawn no new voters into his camp, and if some of these stories are to be believed, lost some of his core supporters. He shot his wad last election, he maxed out. This has got to be concerning the inner cabal. Unless his henchmen can stir up some widespread voter fraud.
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PSR40004 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:22 PM
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5. you're kidding..
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 10:22 PM by PSR40004
I'm seeing polls showing him above 50% since 9-11 which is more then he got elected on (remember he won with less votes then gore?), this guy is a threat and talking him down won't do it. We got to work and beat this guy, I know of two gore voters in my family now going strong for bushlite...
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:30 PM
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6. Why?
Why do they like bush? What do they think about the environmental rape and fiscal pillage going on in this country? What do they think about illegal and immoral war? What do they think about redacted reports and executive actions? I mean, if they are supporting bush now, why did they vote for Gore?

Just thinking out loud now... maybe your experience with these two family members is indicative of what's going on with more than a few Gore voters - that is, those who voted for him not out of any particular democratic/progressive conviction, but maybe just because Al Gore comes before George Bush in the phone book. That is, that it doesn't take much (including thought) for them to switch sides...

Just a (worried) thought.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:51 PM
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8. I have had similar experience with my parents,
both them voted Gore in 2000, and they now think Bush is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and see him as a strong wartime leader. They buy into the crap 100%

Thats why I dont buy the idea that Bush will get no new voters for him, I think thats just a pipedream. Most people in America dont share the vitriolic hate for bush that we have him for him, most are complacent.
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:00 PM
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10. I'm afraid you might be right
Unfortunately people will usually go with the devil they know rather than the one they don't, and they see Bush as personable and confident in the face of adversity. The American media never portrays him any other way, and most folks don't care to dig any deeper.

But I'm trying to be hopeful. How many people have any clue what any of the candidates stand for other than what Rush and the Corporatist media has been telling them? Hopefully things will get better with time, but the way that the Democratic Party seems to be in full self-destruct mode, I don't know.....
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:20 PM
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3. I dont know...
if polls are to be believed, it seems like its about 80-90%...my parents love him, I dont get it...but I think its reality...

9/11 did a lot for him...
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:20 PM
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4. very good question, kentuch
50/50? Lots of people just love Bush. Many, many conservatives can't stand him the way much of the left and many liberals couldn't stand Clinton. But you are right, any strategy will need to know where the fault lines in Bush's support is.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:38 PM
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7. The polls I read show high 80 to low 90% from pukes.
nt
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:58 PM
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9. Somehow or other they have wrapped their identities
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 10:59 PM by Woodstock
around Bush. One surprised me today by the depth of his gloating reaction over the Sadaam capture. The thing is, I was fine with the capture - so I'm thinking, it's about time, I mean, we've spent billions of dollars and thousands have lost their lives and limbs. So I'm certainly glad the scruffy one was tracked down in his hole. And the glory goes to the military - Bush had nothing to do with it.

It doesn't mean I'm OK with the fact that this all had nothing to do with the "war on terror" - that we've spent all this time and money and lives and bodies to pull down a dictator who was no threat to us. But we're in greater danger than ever before of terrorism - Bush has done virtually NOTHING to help, and plenty to hurt the efforts to protect us against this. And I'm not OK with all the dough Bush and his cronies are raking in over in Iraq, while the rest of us pay the price.

This guy doesn't know about any of this, and he doesn't want to know (if he wanted to know the truth, would he be watching Fox News?) All I can conclude is he WANTS to give his hard earned money to Bush and his pals. He isn't making very much, either. And this is the crux - I had no idea he was taking Bush's failures so personally. But he was.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:14 PM
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11. It's Which Repugnicans Will Vote...Which Will Not
There's a lot of stuff we can throw around here...since there has been a shift in the "middle-ground" since 2000...in both directions.

RoveCo. has benefited from 9/11 with those Dennis Miller "I was once a liberal" types (who never were)...that were the ones that gave * that huge (90+) approval ratings (sorry folks can't forget how high those numbers got...I was in the 10% then and proud of it). These are the "Nascar Dads" "Raygun Democrats"...whathaveyou...men 35-54 or so...who swung heavy to the GOOP and are the party's big base now. These guys came out in 2002...especially in the South...are there enough of them to give * a real win this time? RoveCo. thinks so.

Fiscal "Conservatives"...are the other group that went with * in 2000, but if you read what is posted here (be careful on that kids), they're in outright revolt with the free spending defecit goons in this regime. Well, sorta kinda...Yep, they hate those defecits, but they love those tax cuts, changes in capital gains, inheritance and so on. They're making money with this dude, and don't you forget it. Albeit, not as much as they did in the late 90's, but with portfolios again clicking at 8-10% or higher, the bitches are more words than actions. These people, at best, may stay home next year...but may also look at another round of promised tax cuts or breaks too tempting next year...and be assured that'll be in the GOOP "bribe list".

So whose been lost? The military? That segment was overwhelming lied to and preyed on by the GOOP and the game goes on. Democrat attacks on the war have really galvanized these people who feel those attacks are on their way of life. Sadly, we're gonna need more "tubes" to come home, before this segment starts to question things...and again...hopefully stay home.

And these are people who will be voting against us, not for us.

The hope is this regime continues to get stuck in lies and messes and the sleeze factor starts to take hold (as it did with Nixon). Democrats can only suceede if we energize our traditional bases...the working classes...who have lost so much under this regime and stand to loose so much more with another 4 years. These people have to be reached and enlightened.

Democrats rarely win with Repugnicans...they do when Democrats come out to vote and support other Democrats. We did it for Clinton, didn't for Gore. Whomever the nominee is, I'll be 1000%...and I can't wait for that to start, but the groundwork needs to be laid now...to define not just the issues, but to start reaching out to the people who most relate to that message.
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