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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:45 PM
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BBC: "Secret Labs Uncovered in Iraq"
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:47 PM
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1. Wow that's one detailed article
Thanks Mr. Blair for finding a bug spray plant!

Or maybe we can bomb this university lab and call it a chemical weapons plant used to make...Lysol!
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:03 PM
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13. Wonder when Curious George will try to spin this into
the find of the century, this week. Gotta do it before they off Saddam.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:47 PM
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2. And the 'mobile labs' they found
couldn't have been used for anything but anthrax... oops, they were wrong about that also.

Again, I don't think any questioned Saddam's desire to have WMDs only the fact that he didn't have them in any quantity that was a threat to us. If inspections would have been allowed to continue, we'd probably have found these labs as well.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:49 PM
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Golden Labs or Black Labs?
And who was walking them while Saddam was in the Spider Hole?
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:53 PM
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9. Cmom...do you really believe that they were trying to make WMDs?
I think that this was a bluff. Saddam isn't the most rational person in the world. Plus looking tough is a good quality in the Middle East.

He used up his chems back in 88 and without the US to resupply after 90, he was SOL. But he still had to keep up the appearance.

If he did have programs in place to create WMD, then that would give Charlie Chimp more justification with fringe-voters. Could you imagine how his lapdogs at CNN, Faux, SeeBS, MSNBC etc. would spin this news?

They could say that preemption was necessary to avoid another N. Korea, etc.

I doubt that these were for weapons use. Even if they were the scientists would do what they could to sabotage the programs and lie to Saddam (no chemical or Nuclear expert!)
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:16 PM
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15. You mean the falafel and ice cream trucks?
We call em roach coaches.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:48 PM
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3. In keeping with the newly constructed mantra "weapons programs"
as though "weapons programs" are weapons. Thanks Tony, this indicates that at some unknown point in the future, Iraq MAY have become an imminent threat, unlike N Korea, an much more imminent threat.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:49 PM
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4. His Christmas message to the troops was about labs?
How heartwarming.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:49 PM
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5. So do these "labs"
have cobwebs all over them like the other "labs" did?

Are they trashed, rusted-out crapholes like the other sites?

Or, are they like the chemical "rockets" that NPR reported back in April that . . . well . . . weren't.

Or maybe it's like the "suspicious" site that was actually pesticides at an agricultural site (go figure).

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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:50 PM
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6. Plans????
Hey - the US has the real thing. Maybe we should invade ourselves. Geez....he's getting desperate. That's like the WMD 'programs' that were the mantra after none were found. It never ends, does it....?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:52 PM
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7. So...
We're back to weapons programs again, and not actual weapons?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:52 PM
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8. Nothing there in the form of evidence
It may be so, but I'll not take it on the word of a Prime Minister known to bend the truth and who would also benefit from the promotion of the idea...

We knew BEFORE the war that Iraq had a missle capable of flying farther than was considered persmissibe.

So are we just rehashing in the hopes the public forgot? Or does TB have something new to report?

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:34 PM
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20. "a missle capable of flying farther"?
You must mean the ones that the UN inspectors were busy destroying until aWol forced them out by invading Iraq and starting an unnecessary war.





Associated Press
March 1, 2003

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Iraq began crushing banned missiles with bulldozers today, meeting a U.N. demand in an attempt to prevent a devastating U.S.-led attack. Washington dismissed the move and continued to push for war.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/iraq/1800613

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:55 PM
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10. LOL . . . read the updates . . .
He was repeating from David Kay's October report.

"He was repeating what David Kay, the head of the Iraq Survey Group, had said in his report in October."

Nothing new here except another sensationalistic headline.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:00 PM
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11. So now,after Saddam capture, they have to justify the illegal...
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 01:03 PM by kentuck
...invasion? Seems they are doing everything they can think of to convince people they were justified. That's the top of their agenda.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:03 PM
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12. Like the super memo with all the key talking points?
Atta
agreed upon targets
Saddam
Abu Nidal
shipment from Niger

Puuuuhllllleeeeeeeeease!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:10 PM
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14. guess they didn't get the bounce they expected from
saddam's capture.
Time to pull out the reruns, maybe they'll play to higher ratings this time.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:19 PM
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16. The article keeps changing . . . .
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 01:20 PM by ET Awful
I went back to the same link now, and now the headline doesn't say anything about labs :), it just makes a reference to it later on with the disclaimer that it was the same info as used in October.

Geee, I guess they jumped the gun a bit eh?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:27 PM
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17. were they in Saddam's "spider hole"?
how can anyone beleive that Saddam had vast secret weapons programs after seeing him and the hole he was hiding in?
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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:28 PM
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18. Saddam was hiding in one of the labs
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:30 PM
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19. Been debunked.
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