BBV Blackbox Voting announcement pending Thread 2

[alfredo]

for us guys on dial up, a continuation of this thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=896001&mesg_id=896001&page=
therre is still time to contact your local TV stations about this.

Be sure if you do, follow up.

[ParanoidPat]

1. Thanks for starting this!

.....One hour to go! :evilgrin:

While you wait, here's a poll you can vote on from the Federal Election Reform Network, http://www.reformelections.org/index.php , which is the home of the National Commission on Federal Election Reform, organized by the Miller Center of Public Affairs and The Century Foundation to recommend ways to improve the accuracy and fairness of federal elections.

The current poll question and results for this week are:

Would you feel confident about your vote using a computerized voting machine?

26% - Very Confident
22% - Mostly Confident
22% - Somewhat Uncertain
30% - Not at all Confident

52% are 'Somewhat Uncertain' or 'Not at all Confident'! This is an issue we CAN and MUST win! :evilgrin: Please take a moment to register your vote.

On Edit; Sorry about the link! I think it might be a PHP related error so I've substituted the direct link. The forum software truncates the word 'reform' after the 're'! Sorry for any inconvenience. :spank:

[alfredo]

2. The link doesn't work.

www.reelections.org could not be found. Please check the name and try again.

It should be http://www.reformelections.org/

[ParanoidPat]

8. Thanks, I fixed it!

The forum software truncates the word 'reform' in the link structure. :evilfrown:

[frank frankly]

3. kick

kick

[creativelcro]

4. So, is something gonna be posted here too at 2PM Pacific time ?

[ramblin_dave]

5. The pre-announcement at blackboxvoting.org says

"We did a swing through Vancouver, Canada and would like to announce our findings. This information merits a press conference."

It would seem that something was observed in Canada that is noteworthy. What could it be I wonder?

[nostamj]

6. Vancouver is home to one of the big BBV manufacturers

(but not Diebold, IIRC)

and they got DOCUMENTS for this...

[Vadem]

7. Only 15 minutes more!

:kick:

:kick:

[nostamj]

10. is anyone expecting a LIVE update?

or will we have to wait until someone posts something *after* the conference???

i've known about this since late last week but couldn't get a *thing* out of andy (not that I tried... he was sworn to silence and I certainly repected that

BUT...................................

the suspense is driving me NUTS!

[creativelcro]

13. given the expectations they've raised

it'd better be good :D

[nostamj]

15. don't expect a "STOP THE PRESSES"

bombshell.

i believe it will be significant.
exposure of another piece of the puzzle.
and concrete evidence that demands further and wider questioning.

[alfredo]

11. It should take a few minutes

before the news hits us. but AS soon as it does, link to it here.

[phiddle]

9. Is there any

internet broadcast coverage?

[nostamj]

12. i seriously doubt it

I'm sure that someone on the Seattle/BBV team would have given us a heads up if that was going to happen

[jono]

14. kick

[alfredo]

16. thanks for the kick

I am monitoring her site, and got my e-mail warmed up.

making goulash as I wait.

[jono]

24. No problem.

This is so irritating - I'm sitting in a cubicle about 12 blocks away, but I couldn't get off work to go watch. I'm dying to know what's being discussed!

[althecat]

17. No news yet.. Conference must be over by now...

[nostamj]

18. over ??? it's only been 10 minutes

assuming they started exactly on time.

i would think it would last at least 30 minutes (with questions)

[creativelcro]

19. It just started....!? What do you mean it's over ?

[creativelcro]

20. I'll check back at 5:30 East

[alfredo]

21. go to her site now!!!

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[nostamj]

25. here it is!

What we have, in Washington State, is this:

We’ve got the state election director misstating when versions were certified, somebody at the secretary of state’s office signing off on software with no NASED number, and when we try to find out what software is actually authorized, we get the buffalo shuffle. We’ve got a convicted drug dealer printing our ballots, a 23-count embezzler programming our voting system, and our absentee ballots are being funneled through a private company that hires mainly immigrants but also people straight out of prison.

We’ve now documented 10 states that are using unauthorized software, and internal memos that indicate that five Diebold programmers uploaded these unauthorized programs, knowing that this was not allowed.

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go to the site for links to the documentation and statement from Andy Stephenson (God_bush_n_cheney)

[Rose Siding]

27. Holy CRAP

Tuesday Dec 16, 2003
PRESS CONFERENCE - Update

What we have, in Washington State, is this:

We’ve got the state election director misstating when versions were certified, somebody at the secretary of state’s office signing off on software with no NASED number, and when we try to find out what software is actually authorized, we get the buffalo shuffle. We’ve got a convicted drug dealer printing our ballots, a 23-count embezzler programming our voting system, and our absentee ballots are being funneled through a private company that hires mainly immigrants but also people straight out of prison.

We’ve now documented 10 states that are using unauthorized software, and internal memos that indicate that five Diebold programmers uploaded these unauthorized programs, knowing that this was not allowed.

supporting docs linked on site

[MGKrebs]

22. from the bbv site:

"This just in from Bev's press conference in Washington state.
It would seem that Diebold picked a real winner when it decided to buy Global Election Systems and turn it iinto its own voting machine division. "

:It would seem we have a convicted embezzler and a convicted cocaine dealer among its personnel.

To read for yourself, click on:

Press Conference Summary
Supporting documents

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/

[dixiechiken]

23. I'm on the edge of my seat and about to pee my pants here ... (n/t)

[Kelvin Mace]

26. The thread is now posted

in general discusion.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org

[alfredo]

28. OK go for it guys.

I am sending this info to my election commission, and Secretary of state.