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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:32 PM
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Sharpton Picks Up Several Endorsements
New York Officials Endorse Presidential Candidate

Dec 16, 2003 5:21 pm US/Central

NEW YORK (AP) Presidential candidate Al Sharpton, who has won as much attention for his "Saturday Night Live" appearance as he has on the campaign trail, won the endorsement of several New York City and State officials Tuesday.

Rep. Jose Serrano, a Bronx Democrat, and Rep. Ed Towns, a Brooklyn Democrat, were among a group of officials who endorsed Sharpton on the steps of City Hall.

He has "a record of service, a record of fighting for social justice, a record of believing in issues," said Serrano. "He is the true anti-war candidate. He is the true poor people's candidate."

Sharpton, a well known civil rights activist, has previously run unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate and mayor.

Sharpton, introduced by Towns as "the next president of the United States," said he is seeking to build a coalition that will lead him to the White House, and Democrats to retake the governorship and mayoralty.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/topstories_story_350182357.html
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:42 PM
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1. I like him..
Too bad my friggin cable service BLOCKED his appearance on SNL...I was pissed.
If Al doesn't get the WH, I'd like to see him appointed to some other position in the new Dem presidency. Maybe HUD or health and human services?

"Al, you've come a long way baby...."

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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:44 PM
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2. he's the same race-baiter he's always been
these Congressmen are probably just scared Al will target their re-election campaigns like he threatened to do to any black (NY) politician that doesn't endorse him.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:50 PM
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3. He's been fabulous so far.
He's smart and talented and I'm glad he's in the race.

Not something I ever thought I'd say about Al.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:33 PM
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5. Sharpton is definitely not deferential

While it is unlikely that the staff of any of the white candidates will be encouraged by their current employer to offer their talents to politicians who oppose them, it is somewhat off-putting to certain whites for someone with a different ethnicity to be so candid. :)
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:10 PM
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6. wow...speaking out and fighting for civil rights is called race baiting
these days? I wonder if MLK was a race baiter also.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:11 PM
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7. Sharpton is no MLK
not by a mile
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:14 PM
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8. oh I'm sorry, he's not as meek and respectful of authority
as MLK was. Thats also why Malcolm X was hated.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:15 PM
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9. two words:
Tawana Brawley

:nuke:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:25 PM
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10. Sharpton believed her, he doesn't deny it

In fact, the times that I have seen him discuss it recently, he hasn't seemed to be bothered by it at all.

It was made into a bigger deal than it was at the time, and it is certainly not a big deal now.

Sharpton has not been reticent about his positions on the issues, and in some cases, those positions are not dressed-up variations of those of the bush regime, so there should be plenty of meat for anyone who wants to take exception with Sharpton - much better quality meat than his having believed a disturbed young woman 30 years ago.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:27 PM
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11. you're kidding, right?
It was made into a bigger deal than it was at the time…

Sharpton & his cronies destroyed the life of Steven Pagones, the District Attorney they falsely accused.

they were found guilty of libel & defamation by a jury.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:43 PM
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16. I didn't say that positions on the issues were everybody's cup of tea

Sharpton believed the girl, he said so, the jury did not believe the girl.

Who was/is right?

About Tawana, dunno, but there have been some who have suggested that there are some other things going on right now involving the US, both domestic and international, that deserve at least a passing glance by those with an interest in the presidential candidates.

And as I said, Sharpton has not been hesitant about discussing either Tawana or some of the lesser issues you may have seen in the papers even more recently.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:27 PM
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12. Again. I keep asking this question but nobody answers:
Do you believe the girl who says that Kobe Bryant raped her? If so, why the double standard? If a female told you she was gang raped, would you call her a liar and refuse to help her?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:32 PM
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13. Good question
I would believe her.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:41 PM
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15. a grand jury believed Kobe's accuser
the same cannot be said for Tawana Brawley
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:49 PM
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19. Its called *racism*
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 11:50 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
Juries are more inclined to believe that a white girl was raped by a black man than the reverse. Try again.

By the way, a grand jury's decision is only that- a decision. In no way can a jury be sure of whether a rape really occured. Are you under the impression that our judicial system is perfect? Hmm... must be nice to feel that way.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:49 PM
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20. touche'...GREAT POINT...
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 11:49 PM by Sugarbleus
Pruner, and I love your logo, has issues with assertive black men..me thinks

You need to chill pal........:smoke:
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:27 AM
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24. Two more words...
Michael Jackson.

Not too many people know about the tickets for his "youth foundation."

Then, there's his alleged connection to the construction job racket, his little flock of paid followers ready to demonstrate at the drop of a hat, his source of income (claims to have none, but lives rather well)...

There is the "old" Al Sharpton who strikes fear into some local NYC politicians, and the "new" Al Sharpton who is the polite espouser of out cherished liberal ideals. Both are a source of great entertainment.

Both are Al Sharpton, though. Watch your back and your wallet. He talks the talk, but he couldn't stand in MLK's shadow. Or many of the great pioneering black politicians in the New South.

And watch the primaries. Jesse Jackson did very well in some Southern states with high black turnout. I don't doubt Sharpton will do just as well, maybe even better. The "new" Al is really a great show-- even better than Jackson in some ways.

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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:47 PM
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18. MLK wasn't the least bit meek. n/t
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:47 PM
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17. He sure was
Back in the day, he was viewed by lots of white people as evil incarnate, a race-baiting, Communist sympathizer who was getting the colored people all riled up with his demagoguery and fancy talk. Only a decade or so after he died did white America begin to embrace him as the Great Savior who singehandedly created and drove the civil rights movement.
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ma4t Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:52 AM
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29. No, inciting riots and race-baiting are considered race-baiting
Truth-hurts-a-lot seems to be ignorant of or is ignoring Rev. Sharpton's infamous remarks during the Freddy's Fashion Mart episode which led to the deaths of 4 innocent people and the fire-bombing of a building owned by a predominently black church.

The remarks Rev. Sharpton made during that time were, under any fair meaning of the term, race-baiting at its most ugly. But don't take my word for it, do a google search for "Freddy's Fashion Mart" and see for yourself.

It has saddened me very much, but I have come to the sad conclusion that the Democratic Party has no objection whatsoever to bigots or bigotry, just so long as the bigots in question are Democrats. The other eight candidates should be ashamed to be on the same stage with Sharpton. Those who support him are no better than those who lapped up whatever bile George Wallace and Lester Maddox had to offer. Sure he says some things they like, but how can they hold their noses so effectively that they don't notice the stench of racial manipulation and bigotry?

I cannot understand it.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:53 PM
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4. One endorsement he won't pick up is from
the barbers union.
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:40 PM
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14. Maybe he can get an endorsement from Dapper Dan Hayuh Pomade
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 11:40 PM by cirej2000
He likes the pleasin aromas it gives off in his hayuh!
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:56 PM
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21. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET OFF THIS BOARD!

BUNCH OF RACIST PIGS....Don't see that, don't want that in Democratic Party. Any Party for that matter.

God, will it EVER end?



:nuke:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:43 AM
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25. Remarks like this about Sharpton are common, and tolerated to

an extent that would not be the case with any other candidate. For example if someone posted similar stuff in a thread about Joe Lieberman.

This is actually a good thing, as it can serve to remind those who might have been unaware that racism is indeed endemic, and in places that might surprise some.
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:10 AM
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28. Ethnocentrism on full display. n/t
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:59 PM
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22. A little cultural bias?
Yeah - Rev. Al's hair doesn't lay down like the do's of the white boys in the race. So let's make fun of the hairstyle he wears - a style that many black men also wear.

Shame on him for not having the right kind of blow hair. That alone should disqualify him from the race.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:02 AM
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23. You talkin' to me?
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:01 AM
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26. In the past Sharpton has supported slavery reparations.
Does anybody here seriously think that a candidate who supports that will carry any states at all?

What would happen downticket for the other candidates for other offices of a party that had a POTUS candidate who supported slavery reparations?

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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:06 AM
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27. Believe it or not there are
those in the majority community that support reparations. Also it is now becoming a reality in some respects since a few companies have been successfully sued for their participation in slavery profiteering.
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