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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:49 PM
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Saddam will not go to trial. You know why and how?
Because Saddam can shovel up so much information on Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Pappy Bush that he will die from a "heart attack", "an accidental fall down some stairs" or just die mysteriously. George W. Bush, Karl von Rove, and the rest of the Neo-Con Crime Family will never allow their secrets to be revealed.

Think about it.

John
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:56 PM
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1. I Agree
I don't think that Saddam will live long enough to go to trial.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:02 PM
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5. Yeah, I agree.
I'm thinking that they are looking for another Jack Ruby as we speak here.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:40 PM
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8. Oh, yes.
I remember seeing that live on the boob tube. Jeez.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:57 PM
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2. This is one of the best articles I've seen on this topic yet:
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:36 PM
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12. Good article - that was my first thought - Why captured alive?
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 11:37 PM by elbayl
What good does that do for BushCo?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:57 PM
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3. It really doesn't matter what Saddam says.
The US press will either not cover it or distort it anyway.

For some strange reason, and in spite of considerable evidence to the contrary, the typical Mrkn is prolly more likely to believe Saddam is a liar than Bush is.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:02 PM
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4. Hmm
That is the problem. Who is more likely to lie to Americans, Bush or Saddam? Who has more to gain? Tough call.

But I have a feeling anything Saddam says will not phase your average American.

It could be interesting if Iran gets in on this, and tries to use the Iraq-Iran war in this somehow.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:27 PM
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6. Iran already is by filing a suit for damages against Iraq which occured
during the Iran/Iraq war. Interesting timing, don't you think? And the Kuwaitis aren't forgiving any of their Iraq debt, part of it is damages owed from Iraq's invasion in 90.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:30 PM
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11. Saddam IS a liar
there is no doubt about that, at all. doesn't mean that * can't be one, too, of course. we don't have to believe either one.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:39 PM
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7. but all those folks are liars
the ones you mentioned that put Saddam into power and then subsequently turned him into the anti-christ. Boy I couln't blame Saddam for hating these men. What really went down in private no one will really know. To think and label Saddam as some horrible dictator should not be thought of without acknowledging "our" part in this scenerio.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:54 PM
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9. Is Ross Perot still around?
1992 3rd Presidential debate:

Let's go back in terms of accepting responsibility for your actions. If you create Saddam Hussein, over a 10-year period, using billions of dollars of US taxpayer money, step up to the plate and say it was a mistake. If you create Noriega, using taxpayer money, step up to the plate and say it was a mistake. If you can't get your act together to pick him up one day when a Panamanian major has kidnapped him and a special forces team is 400 yards away and it's a stroll across the park to get him, and if you can't get your act together, at least pick up the Panamanian major, who they then killed, step up to the plate and admit it was a mistake. That's leadership, folks.

Now, leaders will always make mistakes. We've created, and I'm not aiming at any one person here, I'm aiming at our government -- nobody takes responsibility for anything. We've gotta change that."

--snip--

PEROT: Well, I come from the computer business, and everybody knows the women are more talented than the men. So we have a long history of having a lot of talented women. One of our first officers was a woman, the chief financial officer. She was a director. And it was so far back, it was considered so odd, and even though we were a tiny, little company at the time, it made all the national magazines.

But in terms of being influenced by women and being a minority, there they are right out there, my wife and my 4 beautiful daughters, and I just have 1 son, so he and I are surrounded by women, giving -- telling us what to do all the time.

(Laughter)

And the rest of my minute, I want to make a very brief comment here in terms of Saddam Hussein. We told him that we wouldn't get involved with his border dispute, and we've never revealed those papers that were given to Ambassador Glaspie on July the 25th. I suggest, in the sense of taking responsibility for your actions, we lay those papers on the table. They're not the secrets to the nuclear bomb.

Secondly, we got upset when he took the whole thing, but to the ordinary American out there who doesn't know where the oil fields are in Kuwait, they're near the border. We told him he could take the northern part of Kuwait, and when he took the whole thing, we went nuts. And if we didn't tell him that, why won't we even let the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee see the written instructions for Ambassador Glaspie?


BUSH: I've got reply on that. That gets to the national honor. We did not say to Saddam Hussein, Ross, you can take the northern part of Kuwait.

PEROT: Well, where are the papers?

BUSH: That is absolutely absurd.

PEROT: Where are the papers?

BUSH: Glaspie has testified --

(Applause)

-- and Glaspie's papers have been presented to the US Senate. Please, let's be factual.

PEROT: If you have time, go through Nexis and Lexis, pull all the old news articles, look at what Ambassador Glaspie said all through the fall and what-have-you, and then look at what she and Kelly and all the others in State said at the end when they were trying to clean it up. And talk to any head of any of those key committees in the Senate. They will not let them see the written instructions given to Ambassador Glaspie. And I suggest that in a free society owned by the people, the American people ought to know what we told Ambassador Glaspie to tell Saddam Hussein, because we spent a lot of money and risked lives and lost lives in that effort, and did not accomplish most of our objectives.


Middle of page here: http://www.debates.org/pages/trans92c.html



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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:03 PM
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10. What will you say when he does go to trial? Will you be willing
to say you were wrong?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:48 PM
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13. Saddam awaits a fate similar to that of the late Jim Mc Dougal of
Little Rock. Regardless of the facts, Saddam will tell his captors whatever they want to hear. Look for his fatal heart attack to come after he acknowledges his ties to you know who.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:58 PM
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14. Yup.
That is exactly what will happen. There's no way they are going to let that man talk...ever.
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