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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:31 PM
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Wright flyer replica plops into the mud. No fly. hahaha (no link was on
TV just now)...
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:36 PM
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1. saw that too
Didn't the Wrights have a 25 mph headwind?

He didn't accelerate fast enough and it looked like he stalled it right at the end of the ramp.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:04 PM
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10. breaking: 911 to blame ....rumor Al Quaeda link
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:39 PM
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20. Fla$h: Pravda claims it's proof Wrights never flew
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:37 PM
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2. Why is that funny? n/t
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:52 PM
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5. I guess it wasn't that funny, but as a pilot it did amuse me a bit...
considering we've been to the moon and Shrub's remarks...sort of
ironic humor I suppose.
;-)
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:56 PM
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6. cool. haven't read *'s remarks yet.
I do remember watching a PBS documentary of the recreation of the Wright Flyer. They struggled mightily and said there were no guarantees whatsoever that it would fly today. They're missing part of the Wrights' notes.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:58 PM
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8. Irony....


Back then when it was the cutting edge of flying tech, it flew.

Now when it is an antique and we have all this high end super sonic stealth flight tech... we can't manage to get the damn Wright flyer in the air.


It would be like watching Michael Jordan try to throw a wad of paper into a trash can, and missing.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:42 PM
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21. Actually, it was pretty funny at the time
Even the commentators on the whore networks were laughing. Not because they were so happy to see it fail, but because of the way it happened. Honestly, I really wanted to see it fly, but it reminds us of what a great feat it was for the Wright Brothers to accomplish what they did.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:37 PM
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3. Was the shrub there to give a speech?
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:45 PM
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4. LMAO, so much for Bush* photo op
Bush honors Wright brothers on 100th anniversary of first flight

KILL DEVIL HILLS, N.C. (AP) — A bald eagle soared into a rainy sky Wednesday, a symbol of flight, as a poncho-clad crowd cheered the 100th anniversary of man's first powered, heavier-than-air flight.
A team of mechanics, pilots and engineers hoped to re-enact the Wright brothers' seminal flight from a century ago, when the two brothers with a delicate contraption fashioned in their bicycle shop made their first tentative hops through the air.

President Bush was on hand for the attempt, timed to come 100 years to the minute after the brothers from Dayton, Ohio, made their first 120-foot, 12-second flight.

"By our skill and daring, we will continue to lead the world in flight," Bush said. (snip/...)

And then it fell down and went *boom*


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-12-17-bush-wright_x.htm
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:57 PM
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7. The Flight was a Miserable Failure?
It was Bush*'s presence, he radiates a Failure Field. Everything he tries to do turns to shit (other than selling the country's interests out to disloyal corporations).
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:01 PM
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9. See post number 5.
I understand the overwhelming desire to attribute as much failure to Shrub as possible, but really.

It was a longshot that the Wright Flyer replica would fly.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:12 PM
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14. I think he was kidding...
...that's how I read it.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:07 PM
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11. They didn't use the catapult...
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 01:09 PM by alg0912
...as was needed in 1903. They're going to try again in an hour. They should use the catapult on the next try...

BTW Karl - I have the 1903 Flyer on my FS2k2 & it's as hard to fly as the original. The virtual cockpit is pretty cool, though...
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:11 PM
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13. No Catapult
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 01:13 PM by WoodrowFan
They did not use a catapult in 1903, they built it in 1904 when they started flying back in Dayton on Huffman field.


http://wright.nasa.gov/discoveries.htm
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:16 PM
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15. Whoops! You're "wright!"
No catapult in 1903. Maybe they need more wind there today (or the muslin cloth was wet, making the Flyer too heavy)...
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RPG-7 Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:33 PM
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19. needed more wind
They team that put it together knew it wouldn't fly without 20 mph winds beforehand.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:51 PM
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22. Wind, catapult. Santos Dumont's 14Bis didn't need any of these.
Phhhhhhbt! :nopity:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:59 PM
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23. The 1905 Flyer needed catapult only because...
...the length of Huffman's Prairie wouldn't facilitate a long takeoff run. And this aeroplane predated the Santos-Dumont machine by a year...

Phhhhhhhbt, indeed! ;)

However, Alberto Santos-Dumont's achievements were incredible for the time. :thumbsup:
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:42 PM
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28. Took me a while to dope out FS2k2 I guess it's Flight Sim? I oughta get
that to play with sometime. I actually had a (somewhat slim) chance to fly the thing...Tom Poberezny is an old friend of mine (and his dad Paul too), Gene Chase was one of my first instructors back in the 60s and called me last year about it. It couldn't have been much trickier than some of the pieces of crap I've herded thru the sky. :D
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:08 PM
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12. RETRY at 2pm ET.......
I hope they make it. I saw a program on all the preparations and how they tried to copy the original.

Dedicated folks trying to recreate history. I wish them a lot of luck...I think it's fascinating!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:17 PM
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16. Think windy thoughts!
I want to se it happen, too. Now that the stink of Bush has blown away, maybe they'll succeed.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:20 PM
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17. I hope it flies
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 01:35 PM by YNGW
Screw all these "Bush won't get this and that" people. This has nothing to do with him. It's a reenactment of history 100 years ago, the birth of flight, something mankind had dreamed of for centuries. Some things transcend politics and this is just such an event.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:28 PM
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18. Well, but...
... I like to believe there was something very special about that first flight. Maybe even magical. Maybe it isn't supposed to be repeated.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:07 PM
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24. It may have been magic...
...but it was also engineering, and so there is an identifiable reason why it didn't fly. If it was raining, damp cloth and a lack of wind would do the trick nicely.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:14 PM
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25. "Of Course, (Shrub) Was a Pilot Himself from His TX Natl Gd Days"
I swear the CNN WH whore correspondent said this: "Of course, (Shrub) was a pilot himself dating to his TX National Guard Days."

It was John whassisname, the one assigned to the WH.----usually he doesn't whore this openly.

For the record, Shrub WASHED OUT as a pilot and later just about killed himself and (Don EVANS?). Sheesh.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:29 PM
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26. * has a far shorter attention span than the Wright brothers!
He couldn't even get through a round of golf if things were going badly for him (his mom would make him wait in the car, because he would start cussing).

I was just waiting for him to come swaggering out in his pilot costume, and break that painstakingly-reconstructed replica (as he almost busted up that Cessna a while back).
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:36 PM
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27.  Something else went wrong eh? Have they blamed Clinton's penis yet?
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frogfromthenorth2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:49 PM
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29. And they want us to belieive that we did put a man on the Moon ?!?!?
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 08:49 PM by frogfromthenorth2
They can't even redo a 100 yesr old experiment!
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