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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:41 PM
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Cheney: Nuclear or Chemical attack major threat for U.S.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6345-2003Dec16?language=printer

Vice President Cheney warned this week that "the major threat" facing the nation is the possibility that terrorists could detonate a biological or nuclear weapon in a U.S. city.

Cheney told commentator Armstrong Williams that the war on terrorism is "going to go on for a long time" and that U.S. soil remains vulnerable to al Qaeda, the network behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The vice president said one of his biggest worries is "the possibility of that group of terrorists acquiring deadlier weapons to use against us -- a biological weapon of some kind, or even a nuclear weapon."

"To contemplate the possibility of them unleashing that kind of capability -- of that kind of weapon, if you will, in the midst of one of our cities -- that's a scary proposition," he said. "It's one of the most important problems we face today, because I think that is the major threat."

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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:42 PM
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1. But we caught Saddam????
Isn't the threat gone now????

Fucking asshole....:grr:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:37 PM
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29. The attack will be against San Francisco
Jeb Bush already hinted that San Friscans are an "endangered species".

Following, the neocons will declare Democracy dead and that it will be replaced by a military form of government as described by Gen. Tommy Franks.

FOlks - when you look at every other disaster or event, you can go back and find hints of it in the media before it happened. Like the "this close" to saddam comment and the precreation of a war crimes tribunal... Ashcroft stopping commercial flights and Bush and Cheney taking one month vacations before 911.

The plan has already been broadcast.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:43 PM
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2. I can just see him standing there, going
"Wooooooo...Wooooo.. mushroom cloud....MUSHROOM CLOUD.... woooooo"

Freaking boogey man.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:07 PM
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35. He should have said "radiological" bomb
There is no way in hell they'll get a nuke, bring it in and explode it....
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:43 PM
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3. Second verse...
...Same as the first.
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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:44 PM
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4. Cheney
Everybody should be very scared! Big Brother will protect you! Trust us! Everyone panic! Big Brother will protect you! We are in charge! We will protect you!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:44 PM
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5. Then Shows Us The Evidence And Prove Your Case, You Twit!
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 02:45 PM by ProfessorGAC
How easy it is to say this kind of thing and not have to show a shred of evidence that the threat is not just imagined nonsense.

Awfully convenient Dickieboy.

Enough with all the secrets. Show us (remember us, the government of the people?) the evidence so we know where the real threat lies. No more acting like all knowing leader. Either show us the evidence or shut the hell up!
The Professor
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jwb48 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:50 PM
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14. So we are no more safer than we were before Saddam taken down
Isn't that precisely what Howard Dean said, and Lieberman jumped all over him for it.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:03 PM
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21. Basically
that's it in a nutshell, yes.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:45 PM
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6. Actually, the are starting the preparation for the next phase of control
The US will be hit with most likely something biological, but it will not come from terrorists and will be used for control of the people. Laws are already in place to lock down should this happen.
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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:46 PM
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7. Mushroom cloud
Have you seen my smoking gun? Is it in the form of a mushroom cloud?

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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:55 PM
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31. This was the mantra for Iraq! Rummy, Condi and Cheney all used it...
And so far, NO :nuke:!!!!!!!
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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:46 PM
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8. So the war on "tourism" isn't working then?
If we are still under "major threat", then WTF have they been doing the last 2 years with this faux war on terror?

Whatever happened to "Amurka is safer now that the evil tourists have been caught"
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:46 PM
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9. "because I think that is the major threat."
No Dick, you and Shrub are the major threat. Oh well, at least YOU will be safe in your undisclosed location...
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:46 PM
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10. perpetual state of fear... that's how fascism thrives...
Cheney's a piece of shit. Republicans are more of a threat to me than Al Qaeda is. Drunk driving is more a threat to me than Al Qaeda is. I'm more likely to get killed by someone I know than a terrorist.

If these fuckers really cared about securing America, they wouldn't be prancing around in the fucking desert. They'd be making sure cargo in ports and airplanes are scanned. Oh, but that would cost corporations too much... we can't ask corporations to secure their transportation systems. We need to mortgage America and kill people 10,000 miles away to secure America...
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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:49 PM
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13. Hmm
I wonder what the odds are that this pack of Camel Lights or that Big Mac will kill me before a smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud?
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:51 PM
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15. statistically... smokes and burgers are more of a threat!
scary1!! We must invade.... uhmm.... Syria because of this threat!
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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:52 PM
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16. Mickey D's
Ronald McDonald recently sought to acquire significant quantities of Chicken McNuggets from Africa.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:56 PM
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18. 36,000 Americans died
Last year, and almost every year, from the flu.

Most of them were poor, so the rest of the country doesn't really give a shit.

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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:30 PM
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26. 14,000 Gang-related deaths per year
No one is declaring a war on THOSE terrorists.
Oh, wait they don't control any oil.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:46 PM
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11. War will go on for a 'long time' and only Republicans can fight that war?
- Sounds like the establishment of a one party government.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:47 PM
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12. fuck off, dick... your fearmongering doesn't WORK any more.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:56 PM
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17. shows U how far off I am!
I thought HE was a major threat 2 the security of this country. Go back 2 YOUR 'hidey hole', jive ass rat bastard. The country is moving beyond your ability 2 scare people N2 buying duct tape & plastic
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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:59 PM
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19. Smoking gun
What form is your smoking gun in? Is it in the form of a mushroom cloud?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:05 PM
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22. Only if that mushroom cloud is shaped like a giant Dick
and it's last name is Cheney.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:02 PM
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20. Let's think for a minute
Dick Cheney spreading fear on a radio show hosted by {b]Armstrong Williams played to a dittohead audience .

hhhmmmm....keeping the faithful in line?

Do you think he would even dare to pass the same crock of crap on mainstream media?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 05:10 PM
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33. Yes - considering "mainstream media" these days is only slightly less ....
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 05:12 PM by AntiCoup2k
...right wing than Armstrong Williams.

Cheney's made similar comments before on Meet The Press, FAUX Sunday and all the other "make your hangover worse" Sunday morning shows.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:11 PM
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23. ah yes, the "war on terror"
is going to go on for a vewy, vewy long time! long enough for you the big dick et al. to suck this country dry. yeah, that's the ticket! :puke:
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glasalle Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:12 PM
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24. The chemical attack will be our chemical plants used against us
The security of chemical plants has been covered by Now with Bill Moyers on PBS and CBS 60 minutes but hardly anyone in government is talking about this. A small bomb is all that is needed to blow up a tank of chlorine or other toxic gas. These poorly guarded plants(security is non-existant in many of them) are in populated areas, so thousands of people would be killed or hurt if this happened. It would be a Bhopal caused by terrorism. After 9/11, congress tried to pass laws that would tighten up security at these plants, but the industry lobbied successfully against it.
So this is my fear- terrorists will hit the easiest and weakest targets in our country.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:26 PM
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25. Hi glasalle!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:00 PM
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34. Tell me about it!
Here in Charleston WV we have been under chemical attack for 60 years! It starts again at dark every evening! Less than ten miles from where I'm setting is a plant now owned and operated by Bayer Crop Science a German firm! That plant did belong to(non)Union Carbide for decades until right after the Bophal disaster! It is in fact the "Sister Plant" to the plant in Bophal India! The plant has TONS of 'MIC'(Methyl Isocyanate)which is the exact same chemical released in Bophal that killed THOUSANDS! Carbide Gassed and killed more people than Saddam did in fact!

MIC is used in the production of the pesticide 'SEVIN®' which is still being made here in town by 'BAYER Crop Science'! Bayer BTW is a part of what was once IG Farben(Gesellschaft Farbenindustrie AG), the very same company that once made the Zyclon B "Gift Gas" that the SS used to kill the jews in Europe! IG Farben BTW, was partly owned by Brown Brothers Harriman bank Run by Presscot Bush!(google Trading With The Enemy) BAYER is the company that Bush bought all the 'Cipro' from during the anthrax scare after 9/11!

The Bush Administration paid over a dollar each for the Cipro tablets when we could have bought meds in the US far cheaper, which would have worked as well as the Cipro! Bayer was forced to settle with survivors of the Nazi death camps, just in the last few years! I'm guessing that Bushco was helping Bayer make up for the LARGE cash settlement paid to the families of the Nazi's victims!

Anyway, back to the damage that could be done here! Massive numbers of Deaths would be the result of very little effort, on the part of someone who was inclined to crash a crop duster into any of a half dozen plants in this area! A boat loaded with explosives could take out an small island here, on which is stored some of the most deadly chemicals you can imagine!

During the COLD WAR this area was known to be targeted by the USSR's ICBMs! The Reds knew what a double whammy they could cause by getting even close to these plants here! If the people in the Middle East could buy weapons from the USSR, it stands to reason that they could also buy Russian Intel on the American targets!

People in our government who would just cry wolf every time the political landscape is dreary, simply to divert our attention would have to be beyond insane! The people here are scared shitless by Cheney and Bushco's warnings! People were already scared just from the chemicals accidentally released here by these chemical companies over the years! Hell I've had my duct tape on hand for years and have had to shelter in place several times LONG before 9/11!

This SHIT is anything but funny, but the administration chose not to spend the money on HOMELAND SECURITY! The repubs used it to buy votes for Bushco in the up coming 04 election campaign, in the form of Bush's tax cuts! The money Bush wasted in Iraq because of special interests could have done great things here, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

The Democrats in the Senate talked themselves blue in the face about this disaster waiting to happen in America, but the Republicans shouted them down! Robert Byrd knew the danger here and repeatedly warned the country, but they said he just wanted some PORK! If a disaster like Cheney warns about ever does happen here, the blame can be laid squarely at the White House Doorstep, because of corporate greed and a reelection bid for a man who is trying to buy another term no matter what it costs! Even greed can be trumped by a lust for power and it has in this very case!
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:33 PM
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27. I think dickie has been watching "24"
events on that show suddenly appear for real in the WH

or maybe KKKarl has been watching it - after all he is the WH scriptwriter and he doesn't come up with much that is original



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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:33 PM
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28. RE: "U.S. soil remains vulnerable to al Qaeda"
Robert Byrd tried to tell them that but they would not spend the money the Democrats in congress BEGGED them for! The Pubs were too busy giving out tax cuts to rich people, bailing out the Airlines, insurance companies and Bayer!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:53 PM
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30. al Qaeda = Keyser Soze
There are certain similarities between al Qaeda and the fictional bogeyman of the criminal "spook story" as depicted in the movie "The Usual Suspects."

Al Qaeda is invoked to create a shudder in the populace, and to control them. Is it real? So we're told. Does it keep us awake at night? You bet. When mentioned nowadays, al Qaeda is used in attempt to "make the children behave."
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 05:01 PM
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32. WHOOP! WHOOP! Red Alert! WHOOP! WHOOP! Red Alert!
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 05:01 PM by hatrack
Bionic Dick says that it's time to go hide in the cellar, it's time to start storing bottled water, it's time to rat out your neighbors, it's time to be AFRAID, it's time to vote REPULICAN!

Uh, Dick, I thought capturing Saddam would make everything all better. I thought having a big shiny new federal agency would make everyone all safe. I thought airport shoe screening and other vital precautions were protecting America. I thought giving the federal government the right to disappear people was keeping everything peachy. Guess I was wrong.

Jesus, what a one-trick phony pony.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:59 PM
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36. This is going to be the basis of their campaign
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 07:00 PM by devrc243
FEAR!

Fantazing
Experiences
Appearing
Real

This is Cheney's message to keep us stuck with a bunch of crooks
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:00 PM
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37. I was hoping that Jeff Gordon would save us!
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 07:02 PM by Hubert Flottz
From 'Dick Trickle Down'! :kick:
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