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lancemurdoch Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:01 PM
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White supremacist on Scarborough
This thread is a little late because I watched the show last week...and tuned in during the middle of it.

There were a bunch of people on the Scarborough show, and Jared Taylor, a white supremacist, was on. Scarborough seemed to be treating him like a normal guest, even though he was saying some out there things.

I suppose there's a continuum of racism, from what is acceptable to say, to what is unacceptable. So far, I suppose the outer fringe of what has been acceptable has been Pat Buchanan - complain about immigration, affirmative action and so forth but never crossing a certain line. Bringing people like Jared Taylor on and putting them on MSNBC seems to be crossing that line, or rather, an attempt to push the debate to the realm of open racism. I mean, I've seen TV shows where KKK people have been interviewed, but we are usually told "this is a KKK guy" and not just have a guy in a suit treated by the host like he has a normal, acceptable opinion.

I see someone from "La Raza Unidad" was invited on. I'm not as familiar with them as Taylor, so I don't know if they are a normal Hispanic rights group or perhaps an equivalent of the Nation of Islam for Hispanics. If they are racist (which I don't know if they are), then I think they should be treated the same way Taylor should as well.

The transcript is on
http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3476086&p1=0

You can see Taylor boasting about his appearance on his web site
http://www.amren.com

You can also see how racist Taylor is on his web site. Taylor is very closely tied to the far-out KKK, Aryan Nations white supremacist movement.

The airwaves of America, and the right-of-way rights for cables to be laid under/over our public streets are borrowed by Microsoft and General Electric. We gave it to them, and we can take it away. I definitely think a line was crossed and NBC and the FCC should be contacted. I don't mind if say Donahue or whoever sits down and interviews a KKK guy, but identify them as such, don't act like it's a guy in a suit with a normal, acceptable opinion.

viewerservices@msnbc.com is the e-mail address for MSNBC
joe@msnbc.com is the e-mail address for the Scarborough show
fccinfo@fcc.gov is for complaints to the FCC

Don't let them push the line of acceptable discourse about race from Buchanan (who is bad enough) to an outright Aryan Nations/KKK ally like Jared Taylor. Make Scarborough thing twice about this. Perhaps you should say you're going to call your local cable provider and ask them to pull MSNBC.

Again, I don't mind him interviewing Jared Taylor, but not identifying him as incredibly racist is outrageous.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:04 PM
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1. Scarborough don't look right w/ glasses
Anyone know the deal?
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:07 PM
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2. I think the glasses are meant to magnify his tiny pig eyes for the
viewers, rather than correct his vision.

Scarborough looks like a mole man. :P
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:17 PM
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3. This would be of interest to David Niewert at Orcinus
(http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/). David has documented the process by which what is considered acceptable discourse is pushed further and further to the right in an essay, "Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis" (http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/Rush%20Newspeak%20%20Fascism.pdf, $5 suggested donation.)

He maintains that there people who act as intermediaries between the extremist right and the mainstream media. These people glean ideas and currents from the far right and send them up to see what floats. His cites Ann Coulter as an example.





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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:52 PM
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8. that is a great essay
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:21 PM
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4. every night
it's the host
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savior93 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:48 PM
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5. racist
if the opinions he expressed did not i.d. him as a racist in themselves, what is the problem? in your line of thinking, I believe we should also label Al Sharpton as a racist before any presidential debate. we should include everyone in these discussions, if they are rcacist it will show. if they are racists who have something to add let them speak.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:51 PM
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7. So you think racists "have something to add"?
That is an interesting opinion for a newcomer...
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:54 PM
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9. So what you're saying is that Al Sharpton is a white supremacist.
I see.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:00 PM
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:17 PM
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11. Get a hold of yourself. That circumvolution won't go unchallenged.
You may approved of Jared Taylor and his Color of Crime fiction. You may approve of thinly veiled racism and balk at the thought of it being called what it is. But you cannot compare apples to oranges (Scarborough to Sharpton), as though you're being fair-minded, and not expect such a distortion to be seen for what it is, nor you for what you are.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:50 PM
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6. MSNBC is trying to out-Fox Fox
They'll probably have a documentary praising Hitler next.:eyes:
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