Regarding the Kean interview

[ewagner]

take a look at this quote from the article.......

"It is fair to say that the governor's preliminary conclusions are that things didn't function as they should have." He noted, for example, that the public testimony documented serious lapses in the nation's air defense system in response to the hijackings of the jetliners that slammed into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon.
(bold empjasis mine)

This was the subject of one of Will Pitt's essays about 9/11 just recently. It is, however, the first time in my memory that any public official has admitted that there were problems in the air defense system on that day. I'm anxious to hear the full story.

[arcane1]

1. you ain't the only one..

NORAD was totally worthless on the day we really needed them most.

They're pretty good when rich golfers are in trouble, though

[Myra]

2. Gore Vidal documents the "problems" well

It's incredible that it would have happened once, let alone four times.

"This is what Bush actually did-or did not do-according to Stan Goff, a retire US army veteran who has taught military science and doctrine at West Point. Goff writes, in The So-called Evidence is a Farce: "I have no idea why people aren't asking some very specific questions about the actions of Bush and company on the day of the attacks. Four planes get hijacked and deviate from their flight plan, all the while on FAA radar."

Goff, incidentally, like the other astonished military experts, cannot fathom why the government's automatic "standard order of procedure in the event of a hijacking" was not followed. Once a plane has deviated from its flight-plan, fighter planes are sent up to find out why. That is law and does not require presidential approval, which only needs to be given if there is a decision to shoot down a plane. Goff spells it out: "The planes were hijacked between 7:45 and 8:10 am. Who is notified? This is an event already that is unprecedented. But the President is not notified and going to a Florida elementary school to hear children read.
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By law, the fighters should have been up at around 8:15...who and what kept the Air Force from following its normal procedure instead of waiting an hour and 30 minutes until the damage was done, and only then launching the fighters. Obviously, somebody had ordered the Air Force to make no move to intercept those hijackings until...what?

On 21 January 2002, the Canadian media analyst Barry Zwicker summed up on CBC-TV: "That morning no interceptors responded in a timely fashion to the highest alert situation. This includes the Andrews squadrons which...are 12 miles from the White House...Whatever the explanation for this huge failure, there have been no reports, to my knowledge, or reprimands. This further weakens the 'Incompetence Theory.' Incompetence usually earns reprimands. This causes me to ask whether there were 'stand down' orders." ?? On 29 August 2002, the BBC reports that on 9/11 there were "only four fighters on ready status in the north-eastern US." Conspiracy? Coincidence? Error?"

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/pr_gore_vidal.html

[KoKo]

4. Thanks for the repost of that Myra. It's a good "re-read" to job our

memories of how shocking it was on 9/11 to feel completely defenseless in our country wondering who was in charge and how all of this could be happening to us.

[aquart]

6. But the President is not notified and going to a Florida elementary school

We have timelines. The President was notified of the first crash into a building, so we've been told, before he went into the school.

The question we all have is was he notified earlier, of the hijackings themselves. My answer? Damn right he was. It's what they were waiting for all damned summer. That's why he keeps lying about the sequence of events that morning. That's why he stayed in the school reading that stupid story. His tiny feral mind kept telling him he needed an alibi for the attack.

We will find that the phone logs from that morning have mysteriously been destroyed.

[Old and In the Way]

7. He admits to watching that 1st plane hit the WTC.

Repeated that on separate occaissions, too. Do we take him at his word? CCTV, anyone?....I wonder if that van was doing a live feed?

"That was one terrible pilot"....you are one terrible pResident Dimson.

[Military Brat]

3. William Rivers Pitt: "The Sins of September 11"

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101303A.shtml

:dem:

[althecat]

5. NORAD's Bad Hair Day - Two Reference Works

A couple more very good reference pieces on this....

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http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00031.htm

The Failure to Defend the Skies on 9/11
FROM THE COMPLETE 9/11 TIMELINE
Version 1.1, August 27, 2002
By Paul Thompson

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And the original article that brought all this up...

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http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0202/S00079.htm

Sept 11th - Unanswered Questions
By MalcontentX
Tuesday, 19 February 2002, 1:33 pm

[Old and In the Way]

8. Two more good resource timelines

www.cooperativeresearch.org

and

www.standdown.net