The Osama Bin Laden Ad is Pulled off the Airwaves

[slinkerwink]

"As criticism from its donors mounts, a controversial political group led by former Democratic congressman Ed Feighan of Cleveland will end its attack-ad campaign aimed at Howard Dean, a front-runner in early Democratic presidential primary races.

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The most controversial commercial shows a magazine cover with terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. It questions the abilities of Dean, a former Vermont governor with no military and foreign policy experience. That ad, shown for two weeks in New Hampshire and South Carolina, will end today, said Robert Gibbs, spokesman for Americans for Jobs.

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"The ads are not intended to help the Gephardt campaign," Feighan said yesterday. "The ads are intended to assist in finding and electing the strongest Democrat going into a general election."

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Feighan won't release donors' names, noting that he isn't required to by law until the end of January. But Feighan, a congressman from 1982 through 1992, said labor unions "probably" provided the broadest base of his group's support."


Full story at http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1071743608180770.xml

It's a good thing that the unions laid the smackdown on Feighan.

[AnAmerican]

1. Nice of you to copy my post

from Politics and Campaigns..................word for word.

[slinkerwink]

2. I changed it

Thought it should be posted here also.

[AnAmerican]

5. You did change it.

I have no problem with re-posts in general. But word for word was a bit much, especially the non-quoted remarks I added in. No harm, no foul. Yes, it is an important story. And yes, my inital reaction was one of surprise reading my own words under another posters name.

As I said, no harm, no foul. Now where is that coffee??? :)

[slinkerwink]

6. I was in the middle of re-editing my post when your first post came up

[AWD]

22. Dammit, slink.....

I used the words "re-editing my post" yesterday and you STOLE THEM!

Shame on you.

[ibegurpard]

3. Dude calm down

How can it be anything OTHER than word for word when quotations from the article are used?? Sheesh! This is an important story...a lot of people never go to Politics and Campaigns.

[slinkerwink]

4. maybe it's coffee jitters?

:shrug:

[maddezmom]

7. this is what was changed....

<<<The ad was tasteless and, IMHO, should never have been run. That being said, I don't agree with linking the ad to either Kerry or Gephardt. To infer they knew of, and supported, this ad is damaging to the party in general as well.>>>

[slinkerwink]

9. yes, I changed that

I copied the post and didn't see that little tack-on from Politics and Campaigns.

[arwalden]

8. Okay... So The Reconsidered And Pulled The Ad... BUT

hasn't the damage already been done?

I'd compare this to when a clever lawyer wrongfully mentions "facts" not entered into evidence... then the judge tells the jury to "disregard" those comments. BUT... you can't unspeak the words. They've already heard it, and even though they aren't SUPPOSED to consider it as evidence, it still could affect their ultimate decision.

-- Allen

[slinkerwink]

10. We'll have to wait for the next Iowa poll

but in my opinion, it might've turned voters away from Geppy to Dean when they heard Geppy's campaign was linked to the ad.

[AWD]

23. Actually.....

....I think they pulled the ads BECAUSE people found them to be linked to Gephardt's campaign.

All of a sudden, it's bad press for their own candidate and not the intended target, so they play like the nice guys and pull it.

[LizW]

25. Exactly

If they could have let it run and not had anyone find out who financed it, they would have let it. But when it got to be publicly linked to Gephart supporters, it got yanked. It was going to hurt Gephart more than Dean, and may still do so.

I'm proud of the unions for calling foul. No organization should think it can take money and do slimy crap with it and not get called on it.

[flpoljunkie]

11. The was was originally scheduled to run for two weeks, as I recall

[slinkerwink]

12. that's right, and they pulled it only after showing it for about five days

[flpoljunkie]

20. From WP: Groups Anti-Dean Ads Coming Off the Air to Comply w/fed ban

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10386-2003Dec18.html

Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values, a group with ties to Dean rival Dick Gephardt, is ending the ad runs in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina to comply with a federal ban on such ads by outside groups in the month before a primary contest. Voting begins Jan. 19 with Iowa's caucuses.

David Jones, the group's treasurer, said in an interview that the decision to stop running the ads was made weeks before Dean and others condemned them and said they should be pulled.

"We're going to take a break for the holidays and reassess where we are after that," Jones said.

But that doesn't mean the ads, including the bin Laden spot that questions Dean's national security qualifications, won't resurface in states with later primaries. Michigan and Washington state hold primaries on Feb. 7, for example, which means such ads can be broadcast in those states until Jan. 8.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. I heard that the head of the 9/11 commission

is saying that Bush could have prevented 9/11-and this guy is a Republican! If this is so, and it comes out, then the accusations in this ads and any similar ones that might be launched by Bush will be moot. Bush had no foreign policy experience, and his very actions have shown that he has mishandled things from the beginning of his occupation of the White House. We don't need a dangerous bumbler as President, so let's try someone new.

[slinkerwink]

14. can't count eggs too early before they hatch

[slinkerwink]

15. kick

[ldoolin]

16. Good riddance

Now, AJHCPV should disband, not run any more ads, and reveal all of their contributors. And Edward Feighan should join Zell Miller and get lost. With "friends" like those, who needs Coulter and Limbaugh?

[slinkerwink]

17. ditto

[MoonAndSun]

18. this needs to be kicked

:kick:



the fact that Gephardt's name is mentioned in the ad is very damaging to his campaign. If he was involved, then he needs to get out of the race, IMHO.

[0007]

21. Dean can take the heat, people aren't stupid ya know!

Next look for the Clark ads trying to destroy him.

I wanna see the AWOL ads come out, and the truth about junior's inside trading days, which by the way he said was open to the public. Hey junior, I can't find 'em.

[Stuckinthebush]

24. There's a good idea...

Let's get our Democratic groups to run adds criticizing Bush and his foriegn policy mess. This would help all of our candidates.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. but apparently this ad was too hot

why doesn't he just say: "bring it on?"

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

19. Great that the ad was pulled

but I still want the names of the shmucks who put it up in the first place.