Are most country clubs segregated?

[_Jumper_]

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[La_Serpiente]

1. I don't know

but some don't allow women.

[lancdem]

2. There might be some that have unwritten rules

about admitting blacks and/or Jews, but I don't know how widespread that is.

[Kamika]

3. older ones

I think most new ones aren't segregated, but if you want one where presidents etc are members I'm pretty sure you have to be white.

My dad was told not to even bother with certain clubs

[SoCalDem]

4. Most top clubs segregate openly.. BY INCOME

Not many women can match the big boys in income..same goes for minorities.

They found a way around it..

[wryter2000]

5. Maybe a better question

Is were most country clubs segregated. Thirty years ago or so, yes. Against Jews as well as blacks and women. The Augusta Country Club, where the PGA has a tournament, still doesn't let women in.

[SmokingLoon]

12. Augusta National...

There is no PGA event at Augusta...but there is a golf tournament. It is not an official PGA event, never was.

[fairfaxvadem]

6. yes, there are many ways to "segregate"...

I hear, for example, that one of the clubs in Fairfax County is pretty "white bread". It's old, established, white suburban money. Also, you can tell where they put the ladies' "locker room" that women golfers aren't really high priority. The men's is right off the pro-shop and the women have theirs around the back in an oddball location. This is feedback I've gotten from someone who is a new'ish member there.

A friend of mine, who is white w/money and a big Dem said he and his wife did a lot of research before they chose one to join and he said it was a very interesting research project. He purposely did NOT join the one mentioned above because it still seemed to hold to some outdated mindsets.

[Nikia]

7. I don't think that the ones in my home area were

Many of the doctors were from a variety of countries and belonged to such clubs. Only the rich could really join. Even though we lived in what would be considered a rural area without lots of high income jobs, the main country club cost about $20,000 per year to join. The newer country club that was suppose to be more inclusive only cost $10,000 per year to join. These places did not charge extra for green fees for members or any of the other services they provided aside from the restaurant. Even so, one must be rich or upper middle class and really like golf to join. Of course in more urban areas or other areas with high concentrations of rich people, memberships are much higher and sometimes require members to pay high green fees.

[prisonerseven]

8. Yep

You can either afford it or you can't. I can't.

I'm lucky to afford eighteen on a public mud course.

[tom_paine]

9. Proud to say I've never been to one

So I wouldn't know...

[Hippo_Tron]

10. You'd think...

That for the amount of money that these places charge for membership they'd take anybody willing to pay.

[_Jumper_]

11. Exactly

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[Cleita]

13. Back in 1980, my employer belonged to the Los Angeles

Country Club. Only those from old WASP money were allowed in the membership. No Jews or Catholics, no actors or anyone from the entertainment industry as well as no African/Americans nor Hispanics nor Asians were allowed unless they were part of the staff or golf caddies.

Several years later I worked for a Jewish man who belonged to a country club for Jews. They wouldn't open the membership to women if her husband wasn't a member. They did invite some Japanese business to join them eventually.

I think both of these clubs eventually loosened there standards in the next two decades. Is there anyone from LA with an update?

[Heddi]

14. Sure, in many ways

To get into most country clubs, you have to be 'referred' by a current member in good standing, and usually the membership has to be 'approved' by other members of the country club.

The people who are in country clubs generally hang out with 'their own'---meaning, rich white CEO's generally associate with other, rich, white CEO's.

If someone were to nominate their best friend, who happened to be black, or gay, or a woman, even fi they could financially afford the committment to the club, the club members would find some reason to NOT admit them---not affluent enough, not an upstanding member of the community, SOMETHING---

So it's not always out-and-out segregation (as in, written in the bylaws that no-one of this race, gender, religion, etc, is allowed in), but they'll find some reason or another that people of different race, genders, religions WON'T be let in.

[Butterflies]

15. My parents belong to one . . .

that no one can join without being sponsored by someone who is already a member, and then "the Board" votes the person in or out. There are no black people in that club (probably no minorities at all - I'm not sure, I don't go there) because they can keep them out by not voting them in. They don't have to be as obvious as listing racism in their rules.

[rucky]

16. Defacto if it's not in their charter

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[adriennel]

17. most

most of the country clubs I know of in the wealthy Detroit suburbs are segregated, if not by charter, by practice.
and
the Detroit Athletic Club still does not admit women.

[Capn Sunshine]

18. Most definitely

economically segregated.

No bucks, no entry. But this is California. We respect money, your coloration is inconsequential.

$200,000 entry fee and $5000 per month maintenance here for example.

Lake Sherwood Country Club. When I write about rich guys in a bar, its is the bar here.