My response to a BC (Blame Clinton) wingnut - RE: 9-11

[Triana]

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This "Blame Clinton" mantra for bush's every failure really gets old...visit the other post about BILL CLINTON'S Hart-Rudman Bipartisan Commission on National Security -- and the report they developed and put on bush's desk in January 2001.

The one bush IGNORED, -- and then only implemented a shell of the plan AFTER 9-11, appointing ONE MAN with NO national security experience AT ALL to coordinate and manage numerous federal agencies - an impossible task even WITH ntl security experience.

This is NOT a funded, or cabinet-level department as was recommended in the Hart-Rudman report, but rather a plug-nickel pretense of what was actually called for.

Tom Ridge has NO BUDGET - nothing.

What Tom Ridge DOES HAVE and that is the REASON he was given the job - is the potential to deliver the ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes from the state of Pennsylvania to bush and THAT, my dear is WHY Tom Ridge got that job.

Same reason Aahhhnuld the MeatHead is now Gov of California. MeatHead is expected to deliver California's ECs to bush. Yet ANOTHER bush transparency. DOH!

Clues on eBay 3 for a buck. GET YOURS TODAY!

You might learn something IF you do your research. Such as - BUSH FAILED...it couldn't BE more obvious. He was warned by the outgoing Clinton Admin, German intel, French intel and in his OWN DAILY PRESIDENTIAL BRIEFINGS.

And George did WHAT? ***N O T H I N G*** (except pass some nice, juicy tax cuts for the richest 1%). It is painfully obvious JUST WHERE GEORGE'S PRIORITIES were. Let's just say that protecting the country he was SWORN to protect from stuff like 9-11 WAS NOT one of them. Seems protecting the already-bulging pocketbooks of his business cronies and richest friends was #1, instead.

SO - turns out the buck stops ANYWHERE but with Bu$h, doesn't it?

NOW this little man wanted this job so badly that he CHEATED to get it, and now does not want to take responsibility for his actions, his inactions, and his myriad failures and lies.

Sorry, but Bush belongs in Romper Room, not the White House.

[jbfam4]

1. You said it all

You should put this in your local paper. Excellent work!

[Triana]

3. local paper...

...they wouldn't print it! They're Rethug-loyal, like most of 'em...

*sigh*

[AngryAmish]

2. Well said

[Triana]

4. thanky (n/t) :)

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[HawkerHurricane]

6. So...

It's Clinton's fault that Bush ignored the report Clinton's team presented him in January of 2001?

[0rganism]

7. Since you'll be gone soon, I'll quote your post pointwise

> With that little bombshell, I guess one might conclude that 9-11
> was BC's fault, huh???

Only if one were very dim. What it shows is that Bill Clinton understood "rule of law" far better than dim son. Read it again:
"At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America"

> the top 5% (who by the way pay over 50% of all income tax paid by
> private citizens)

Last I checked, back in 2000, that top 5% had about a 35% share of the AGI. I betcha it's far higher now.

> did recieve the highest tax cuts, a whopping 4% (their tax rate
> went from 39% to 35%)

You're referring to the cuts in the TMR for the FIT. What about the reductions in unearned income taxes, like capital gains? Do you even think about the other bennies the rich guys got?

> Mr & Mrs Middle America (who represent 80% of all tax payers) got a
> 3.5% tax cut (1/2% less than the top tax bracket).

Something you're not considering is, when the TMR gets slashed, that means a person earning a million bucks gets that top rate cut on around $650000, as well as the lower marginal rate benefits received by "Mr. & Mrs. Middle America". In other words, the top 5% got all the tax bonuses of the lower 95%, plus some.

> Stop spouting the party line and think for yourself.

Start taking your own medicine.

> Do a little research, and get the facts

Ditto.

> And while your at it, if you'd realize that BC was diddling the
> help instead of doing his job

Bill Clinton was amazing in that he could diddle the help and do his job at the same time. W is amazing in that he cannot eat pretzels unsupervised.

> you'd realize that most of the problems that W inheirited would not
> have occurred.

READ the Hart-Ruddman report, and get back to us. Bill Clinton warned us that international terrorism would be the #1 threat facing this country in the upcoming decade. W chose to stick his head up his ass for 9 months while selling the country to his rich buddies. Do some research, get the facts.

[Triana]

9. excellent responses to the 'points', Organism

...however dull the now-gone poster's points were! Sounds as if they lacked the same insight as the BC'er I sent this response to....


;)

[Triana]

8. I revised and added a bit....gee, this was fun!

This "Blame Clinton" mantra for bush's every failure really gets old...visit the post about BILL CLINTON'S Hart-Rudman Bipartisan Commission on National Security -- and the report they developed and put on bush's desk in January 2001.

The one bush IGNORED, -- and then only implemented a shell of the plan AFTER 9-11, appointing ONE MAN with NO national security experience AT ALL to coordinate and manage 22+ federal agencies - an impossible task even WITH ntl security experience.

This is NOT a cabinet-level department as was recommended in the Hart-Rudman report, but rather a plug-nickel **pretense** of what was actually called for just to make it LOOK like he had done something useful about the situation. He hasn't.

What Tom Ridge DOES HAVE though, and that is the REASON he was given the job - is the potential to deliver the ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes from the state of Pennsylvania to bush and THAT, my dear, is WHY Tom Ridge got that job.

Same reason Aahhhnuld the MeatHead is now Gov of California. MeatHead is expected to deliver California's ECs to bush. Yet ANOTHER bush transparency. DOH!

Clues on eBay 3 for a buck. GET YOURS TODAY!

Tom Ridge has no staff, NO BUDGET - nothing. The SUM TOTAL of what Tom Ridge has done since being appointed - is develop a color-coded 'warning' system which is a national JOKE. I KNOW you've heard the jokes about that silly system. Pathetic. Redicilous.

Have you heard of our SEEN anything ELSE Ridge has done? I haven't. Know WHY? Because his JOB is to deliver those ECs to bush in 2004 and make himself LOOK useful in the meantime. If Cheney peters out, he may become VP...that's the plan. One, the other, both. Whatever.

National Security? STILL not on bush's priority list, I'm afraid. Nope. Guess again.

You might learn something IF you do your research and pay attention. But being a bush supporter, it's already evident that you're incapable of that though and bush COUNTS on that type of complacency to get his votes, so keep it up!

Bottom Line: BUSH FAILED...it couldn't BE more obvious. He was warned by the outgoing Clinton Admin, German intel, French intel and in his OWN DAILY PRESIDENTIAL BRIEFINGS (and THAT is WHY they're trying to hide them).

And George did WHAT?

***N O T H I N G*** (except pass some nice, juicy tax cuts for the richest 1%).

It is painfully obvious JUST WHERE GEORGE'S PRIORITIES were. Let's just say that protecting the country he was SWORN to protect from stuff like 9-11 WAS NOT one of them.

Seems protecting the already-bulging pocketbooks of his business cronies and richest friends was #1, instead. Was then, still is.

SO - turns out the buck stops ANYWHERE but with Bu$h, doesn't it?

NOW this weaselly little man wanted this job so badly that he CHEATED to get it, and now does not want to take responsibility for his actions, his inactions, and his myriad failures and lies.

Sorry, but 'little man bush' belongs in Romper Room, not the White House.

[PsN2Wind]

10. I wish I had your way with words

But since I don't, my response to an obvious disruptor in another thread was "when you're kissing Rushs a**, try to avoid the cyst.

[Triana]

11. hahaaaa!

I think you put it very well! :D

[Sparkle]

12. I saw that.

That was a good one!:-)

[leesa]

13. Perfect!

[oasis]

14. tellin' it like it is. thanks (eom)