Libya dismantling WMD program

[TexasPatriot]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106263,00.html

sorry about the fox link... cnn doesnt have it yet

[TexasPatriot]

1. i wonder which camp will have a statement first

This is going to help Bush... again...

[Ksec]

2. Obviously it was because of the threat of a Dem getting in office.

I just hope Bush doesnt try to steal the thunder

[bearfartinthewoods]

6. huh????

[alcuno]

28. Excellent, Ksec.

The spin stops here.

[maddezmom]

3. on CNNI now

"Lybia needs US technology to explore oil"

Another job for bush's pals.

[DS1]

4. define "Weapons Programs"

Bush says Weapons of Mass Destruction, Libya says "Weapons Programs", it's meaningless.

[TexasPatriot]

8. CNN reporting

Libya has both chem and bio weapons, and has been working on nukes for a long time but doesnt have them. They also have med-range missile systems.

as much as 100 tons of chem/blister agent

it sounds as if Libya will hand over everything they have - material and program wise... and it sounds like they've put some scientific effort into it - so this sounds like a good thing (in terms of making the world safer)

[maddezmom]

5. why have we been talking to them for 9 months?

couldn't we have done the same with Saddam, and let the inspector continue. This is not good news for Bush. JMO

[Muddleoftheroad]

26. Why

Well, since 9-11 Qaddafi has tried harder than almost any potential target to remove himself from the target list.

He has cooperated fully, helped U.S. intel agencies, turned over records and even publicly spoken out against the attacks.

Maybe the man saw a bullseye on his forehead. Maybe he had a coming to Allah moment. Whatever, he has definitely been acting like he wants Libya to join the community of nations.

[TexasPatriot]

7. hrm

i posted it in gd-politics because of the assumption the thread would have an impact to the campaigns... sorry if i posted in the wrong location...

I think this is going to further hurt Dean's case - as Bush is going to be able to make the case that going to war gave the US the ability to apply pressure to Libya. What was interesting was an article in the WSJ (yes, that WSJ) detailing how the Iraq thing was actually helping Clark. I think this will have a similar effect.

[Cocoa]

14. Dean opposed peaceful disarming of Libya?

link please...

[Cleita]

9. Bush doesn't gain anything from this if the candidates

point out how useless it was to invade Iraq if the WMDs were really in Libya or elsewhere. Four hundred and sixty American lives have been lost to date that probably could have been saved if diplomatic efforts with Iraq had been pursued like they apparently were in Libya. Remember Moammar Khaddafi is no more a friend of ours than Saddam was.

[loudnclear]

10. My point also. Saddam would have negotiated had he been treated

like a national head of state instead of a dredge. So we had to kill thousands of Iraqi, ruin their country and humilate Saddam and lose 460 American soldiers to for macho. In the process we have made millions of enemies.

[economic justice]

11. Good news? Yes

Anybody here agree - despite what the political ramifications are - that this is GOOD news??

[TexasPatriot]

13. anytime WMDs go away

and terrorists lose support in some locale its a GOOD THING.

[sandnsea]

19. It is outstanding news

I hope they follow through.

[Gloria]

12. Britain has been making overtures for months....but ....here is the way

to play this, Dems!!

Our boy Qaddafi acknowledges he was behind the killing of all those people on the Pan Am flight...he's a terrorist who has PAID A FINE and has been allowed to walk...

AND NOW,,,WE'RE FRIENDS WITH HIM??????

And it's an oil deal?????

It would really show Bush with his pants down.....and lead to more questions about his ties to Saudi Arabia and Osama, if anyone dares mention it!!


PS..his son plays soccer for a professional team...and just tested positive for drugs....

[Robb]

15. This is a non-issue

Libya is, if you can imagine such a thing, even further behind than Iraq in terms of developing NBC weapons.

Moammar is just grinning and hoping for some business deals... Libya hasn't had the money to compete in the terror biz for a long, long time. Now he can look good to the international community, maybe get a few deals churning with the US and Yurp, build his capitol back up again, THEN get back into the arms business. Much better for him in the long run, and * in the short.

In a horse race to build the bomb, I'd bet on Sierra Leone before Libya.

[TexasPatriot]

20. according to the BBC link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3335965.stm

"UK officials believe Libya was close to obtaining a nuclear weapons capability before the deal. "

of course, UK officials believed Saddam was 45 minutes away from launching WMD at any point... so take it for what it's worth ;)

[Ksec]

16. Wasnt Clinton the one who made Khadafy have a change of direction

when he killed his son with that bombing of Khadafies home?

[Gloria]

17. Wasn't that Reagan who bombed Libya back in 1986??

I was in England at the time and remember the story...Did the planes take off from England, because I know Thatcher was also basking in the glory...

[Ksec]

18. maybe it was Reagan. My history is at best really bad.

[Silverhair]

21. Reagan did it, and it was his infant daughter that was killed. n/t

[Silverhair]

23. Duplicate, n/t

[bhunt70]

25. we also went in a left messages around his house/palace

in 86 or 87. I've got a relative pretty high up the chain of command who told me that Quadafi's change of heart was in part because our special forces found it so easy to "touch" him. He said it was never reported but known in the ranks. Never had a reason to disbelieve him.

[Yupster]

29. That was Reagan

Clinton bombed the place in Sudan.

[jbfam4]

22. interesting

Cnn, with Wolf ,broke the story with Tony Blair making the announcement before Dubya could get his face on TV.

Should we believe this? They admit they have missles and will allow the inspectors in to destroy them.

Saddam had WMD'S , but now they are not there.

Who knows what's true anymore.

[Silverhair]

24. Yes, this is good news, & yes, W will spin it.

1. Any reduction in WMD or WMD programs is good news. Period.

2. Because of the timing it will be spun as Libya being afraid of being the next Iraq. And there will be those that will believe that.

3. By this time tomorrow, the tin foil hatters will have at least a dozen CTs involving this development.

[blm]

27. You're exactly right. This will prove that removing Saddam does make

the world safer because of the domino effect.

This has always been the reason that Clinton and other Dems wanted to remove Saddam, the regional dynamics.

Unfortunately, Bush will be able to use this for maximum effect. I wouldn't even doubt if they are paying Khadaffi under the table for those WMDs and his announcement.

Just another reason why Dems should prepare to face the image of a successful president, because that is certainly how the media will portray him.