The Freeper Push

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Have Freepers infiltrated DU?

Some suspect they have.

So, how do we fight back? Well....clearly, we have to infiltrate their own site.

And how do we do that? How can we possibly use their own web site against them, when they seemingly have all of the momentum on their own side?

We have no choice but to use their own momentum against them. That means that we have to lead them exactly where they are wanting to go: straight back to the ignorant, racist, and fascist extemist society that they they are wanting to go toward. We have no choice but to scare the hell out of everyone by posting on their own site what these people truly wish we were being ruled by.

So....it's "Thank God we have a white man in the White House." and "All Muslims are filthy animals" on their site. Go ahead. They post this ridiculousness all the time on DU, trying to make us look bad, so that Rush can try to ridicule us- while it is THEM, and not us, that have the TRULY disgusting points of view.

We believe it is real freedom, human rights, fairness, and the pursuit of happiness that the United States stand for. And it is clear that the Freepers disagree with us. Let it be known, though, through wealth or through stealth, that they are ignorant and unAmerican creeps with no real sense of justice or freedom, and that Democratic Underground stands for that which will FOREVER RING TRUE IN THE HEARTS OF ALL TRUE AMERICANS- the ideas of LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

We WILL fight on.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. Huh?

Please re-read what you just wrote, then consider adding smilies.

No, I'm not being a smart-ass about this.

--bkl

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3. Smilies?

I'm not trying to be cute, though. I'm trying to rally people to inundate the freeper site with our own kind, in the same way that they have down to ours.

They're all over the place. Haven't you noticed this?

[demvoter]

33. Yes, you are right !

I am wondering now if a disgusting post about Christianity was purposely posted to make us look bad again.

Again folks, as I posted in another subject, this is all psychological warfare now, but I have to ask, First what does the term "freeper" mean (sorry I really dont know)and how did it originate? (just curious)

Secondly, how and what can you post that would upset them and yet pretend that you are one of them. Do you know that if you were raised into and indoctrinated into being a Democrat it is extremely difficult to not let it slip somewhere along the way because honestly a Dem could not think the way they do.

What I dont like is the way they keep referring to Dems as Gays, where do they come off saying that all Dems are gays. I am quite married to my husband of many years and like men (yes I am a female) and the majority of Dem family and friends are straight.
Besides there are the Log cabin Republicans.

:kick: them all out now!

[wanderingbear]

2. I cant stand freepers..

They drive me...Um well I cant say nuts..Im already that..Well Crazy then..

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14. Oh...

I'm on your on "amazingly trippy" website.

It's, like, really groovy. Just a hippie haven. There's....um....all kinds of things to do, and stuff. :eyes:

[Gore1FL]

4. They do that on their own

Why would they need our help to look like right wing nuts?

[Wapsie B]

8. "I just can't trust bush."

Pass it on. Whisper campaign.

[spychoactive]

10. what is their "site"

is the scourge really that pervasive? how can i spot them in my daily trips thru the DU forums? i am being serious, i hav emany questions about these 'freepers' (why are the called freepers?)

so you are saying they come here, post complete and utter crap, and then rush bashes us???

*sigh*

tell me where to go to learn more

thanks

one love
spike

[wanderingbear]

12. I beleave its My site Being talked about here..

Man..Im the farthest thing from a Freeper but this person is convinced Im a spy..

[rumguy]

11. I've seen Freeps that have infiltrated DU

and often it's their threads that get highlighted on conservative websites/shows. It's sad, but it's a fact of life...

They act like their pissed off at the state of affairs in this country, but the tone and message of their thread is just plain stupid...

[Wapsie B]

15. They're getting desperate.

They've got a weak, unelected president. Saddam's "capture" didn't boost chimpy's popularity. The economy's in the toilet. But the boys from the Scaiffe-funded think-tanks cannot let up for a second.

Gotta supress the dissent by any means necessary.

[rman]

25. ..trying to get DU-ers waste their time 'fighting' the freeps

on their own turf. I mean, reponses here confirm it's a very un-DU-like idea. I think most here do realize such a confrontation would be fruitless.

And then we'v got the same person being overly eager trying to expose other posters here as non-true DU-ers. Hence this unique interpretation of DU rules; ("I mean, I'd call you some kind of name, but, apparently I'm not allowed to, because the mods have not yet realized that you're not a true DUer."- see the hippy thread), seems to think it is ok to call someone names once it has been established by the mods that the person is not a true DU-er. Fact is anyone is allowed to post on DU as long as they are being civil, which means never to call someone names. One would think a 1000+ poster knows this.

Also hinting to people that they might secretly want to get violent on B*. Even encouraging people outright to "show their anger" - i've heard that one before. Excuse me but this smells a mile up wind of far-RW agent-provocateur, ineffectively posing as a holier then thou true DU-er.

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27. LOL

With a post such as yours, you'd think that you'd smell your own hypocrisy a mile away.

On edit: Your irony is unbelievable. I'm no freeper. While it is possible (although far from certain) that I went overboard with that poster (who I THOUGHT was a freeper- and now you're calling ME a freeper), I maintain that I was definitely not alone, and that I had reason for my suspicions.

That's all I have to say. If you don't see why I did what I did...well...tough. LOL

[wanderingbear]

13. Im with the Green Party BullGoose..

Thats why the differance in Philosopy..Im further Left then you are.

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16. Alright.

I'm going to lay off. Someone gave you a good reference. I'm sorry for the hassle I've been giving you.

I'd like to see something positive from you, though. What do you think about what's happening?

[wanderingbear]

17. Bush is in office

how positive can I get? Ohcouse every thing I say will have a tinge of anger.. Im angry about the fact that hes there and the things that hes doing..

[rumguy]

18. like what specifically do you not like?

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19. Let's feel some anger, then.

There's plenty of it to go around, and people know it when they see it.

Don't be afraid to show it.

[wanderingbear]

20. Um.. My Anger is not a good thing to let get out of control..

It can have a lot of unitentional consequences..Ive learned to control it,but it isnt worth tempting the Beast with in, Even for Bush.

[rumguy]

21. well anger aside...what is it about Bush and his policies that you dont

like? You can be rational right? Hippie.

[wanderingbear]

22. WHere to start..Thats a long List..

The Patriot Act..I want it repealed..
Homeland security..I want is dismantled..
The War on Terror..I want it ended..
THe war oan drugs...
Speration of Church and state.. I support. Get religous laws off the books..
Gay Marrage I support.
Equal Rights under the Law for everyone no matter who or what there are or beleive..I support.
End the INS.. A free country has no need for borders.

War in General I oppose.. I oppose the Exsistance of Corperate status.
I dont have just a hatered for Bush's policies. I have a hatered for the Man himself and his Family..

[rumguy]

23. You want the INS totally dismantled?

You want completely free borders?

[wanderingbear]

24. I have a dream..

I deam a future where we have no need for borders or Government.
Where all man kind can be free and who they are with out anyone one else telling them they cant..

But its very late..I must sleep..Good night.

[maxanne]

26. they're definitely here

and there isn't much you can do about it.

There are at least 3 DU threads going on in Hannityland, including one with advice on how not to get tombstoned right away. There's also plenty of rightous indignation about how DU is curtailing their right to free speech. Waaaa.

Thanks to Hannity, Rush, and all the other neocon gasbags, DU is a magnet for them. Even if we banned them all - people can still come by, read threads, cut and paste, and then use them elsewhere. That's happened on another board I visit.

There are 2 answers. Either we just keep going - or we tailor every single post to the knowledge that a neocon freeper type may be reading it.

Screw 'em.

[ronatchig]

28. I would add to your list

above, some things I would like to see,
A) A full disclosure of the facts of events surrounding the 9-11 debacle
B) Why is National Healthcare such a bad idea
C) Tell me again, the justification of the Supreme Courts decision to forgo existing law to hand Bush the election.
D)Outlaw right to work laws, and require contracts for every employee in this country, sort of an employee bill of rights. Ban any import not manufactured by a workforce with an equivalent work contract.

As to the idea of attacking the freepers in kind, one only empowers these fascists by giving them heed. To listen to the great propaganda machine in the sky , Overlord Bush is immune to defeat but I hear a different tune in the wind. The only reason the Bushco and their apologists are so shrill is that they (as in corporate elites) are exposed as the fascists they are. And yes, one can see them on a daily basis in the real world.
The Big Question is are we as a party ready to move America into the light of a Social Democracy or do we when we win power back from the fascists, go for the good old capitalist status quo.


May your kind always shine

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29. That, my friend,

"The Big Question is are we as a party ready to move America into the light of a Social Democracy or do we when we win power back from the fascists, go for the good old capitalist status quo."

is a damned good question. That's extremely important.

Write a book ;).

[ronatchig]

30. Yes it is ,

Strangely it has already been answered, the elitists proved early in the 20th century that free market capitalism is a ruse to get all the chips on one side of the table, it also has been proven beyond a doubt that social democracy is the system that governs with the needs of all people in mind.
That my friend is why Bushco and the corporate elites are DOOMED to failure. There are enough people alive to realize how completely immoral the ruling elite is in this country, even the elitists themselves realize this ,hence their shrillness.
After all greed is one of the deadly sins right, along with averice.

[izzie]

31. Some of that stuff I have not read on DU but then I do not read all

I frankly do not care if they are here as you just write what you think and if you do not like what is said you just give your own answer.Why get up tight about it?

[snippy]

32. Freepers represent the John Wilkes Booth wing of the republican party.

[Cooley Hurd]

34. Have you read "Dude - Where's My Country?"

The freepers are a minority in America. They can try to harass us all they want, but it doesn't change anything - they are a dying breed. When they lose the WH next year, that'll be the final nail in the coffin for them. FreeRepublic will disappear and Jim Robinson will have to go back to being a Wal-Mart greeter...

I wouldn't waste my time and energy on them. They're snuffed out as quickly as they pop up here (thanks, mods!), so no need to counter what amounts to inneffective harassment here at DU.

Leave the pathetic little schmucks alone. They have enough of a burden being proven wrong at every turn...

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35. I'm locking this.

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