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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:04 AM
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Who would you have chosen for Times Person of the Year?
I think the American Soldier is a good one, but if I had to choose one person to be "Man of the Year" I would say I would have selected Howard Dean. Why?

Yes, I support him. But it is more than this. He was dismissed earlier this year as someone without a snowball chance of winning the nomination. Then over time through force of personality, a strong message, and a great organization he emerged by years end as the front-runner for the Democratic nomination for president--revolutionizing politics while doing it.

His internet campaign has been one of the most effective in terms of garnering grass root support and record breaking contributions from relatively small contributors.

Well that is my choice. Who would you have liked as "Person of the Year"??
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:07 AM
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1. The NewCons! Like it or not they have greatly influenced our.....
lives and yes, it has been for the worst. They have taken this country in down the wrong road.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:10 AM
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2. Maybe he'll be Person of the Year for 2004
I bet he will. I hope he will.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:11 AM
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3. Whoever came up with the "morning after pill"
This is going to have a bigger impact than the birth control pill. Places where its used have already shown a marked decrease in abortions as the drug prevents fertilisation from taking place.

Arguments about morality have to sound empty and hollow in a society where sex is used to sell bread, cars and more sex. This gives women an 85% chance of preventing an unwanted pregnancy before it gets started and that has to be good for everyone, especially the anti-abortion people. There is no argument that an unfertilised egg is an unborn child.

COndoms are still de riguer since that pesky old killer AIDS is out there, but even condoms fail at times. If the abortion rate plummets maybe the more intense pro-life forces will lighten up and have a better attitude.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:18 AM
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4. devils advocate
I believe they also claim that a fertilized egg is essentially stopped from attaching to the uterus by the morning after pill. You didn't think it was going to be a simple issue did you?
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:22 AM
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5. Before HD should be person of the year
maybe he should st least be the Dem nominee. If he is the nom and wins the election Nov, that would make him a good candidate in 2004.

(disclaimer: I am a Dean supporter so this is not flame bait.)
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:42 PM
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23. He has already earned the title...
by raising the bar for the entire electorate.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:24 AM
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6. Howard Dean -
and I disagree strongly with you that the generic "American Soldier" was a good choice. It was a choice calculated to make people feel better about an illegal occupation and the murder of thousands, and I include in those numbers the American soldiers who didn't make the cover of Time.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:25 AM
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7. Granny D.
Or Dennis Kucinich, a warrior for the people.

I don't place much value in celebrity status; in reality, I'd pick some unknown person living their lives and doing their jobs somewhere, who reaches out to others and makes the world around them a better place.

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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:46 AM
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10. Excellent choice -
Granny D is definitely of Person of the Year stature. A true hero.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:29 AM
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8. Halliburton....
The changed the world as we know it. Thanks to them we are at war and have a elevated (High) terror alert!
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:37 AM
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9. How about ...
The Iraqi People. They seemed to be on the short end of the stick when it comes to our occupation of their country.

I like the idea of having the American Soldier as TMOTY. I am just ashamed that they have been put into a situation (by an AWOL chickenhawk) that they would deserve this distinction.

The American Soldier, like the Iraqi People are the victims of this illegal war.

Cheers
Drifter
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:41 AM
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11. The WAR Protestors
who came out by thousands/millions in every corner of the world
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:40 PM
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18. I 2nd that
The REAL patriots, as they SHOULD be called!

Lu
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:15 AM
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38. Another good suggestion.
With a picture of the masses around the world, gathering to oppose Bush and his war, right on the cover.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:48 AM
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12. How about the Columbia space shuttle crew?
They were real heroes in my opinion. They knew what a risk it was to go into outer space.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:29 AM
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34. Yes...
and they seem to have gotten lost amongst all of chimp's shenanigans, it's disgraceful. :mad:
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:58 AM
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13. Joseph Wilson
(although Time kinda did the whistleblowing thing last year) for having the strength to stand up to this administration, to name names & to withstand the onslaught of sabotage attempted against him & his wife whilst remaining deeply principled & honourable.

He's emblamatic of the lies told by the White House to sell the Iraq war, the power of Cheney & the neo-cons, the vicious way this bunch of Republicans operate politically and the loss of reasoned foreign policy decision making which, for me, sums up 2003. (and 2001, 2002 and probably 2004!)
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 12:01 PM
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14. Time's annual title interests me about as much as "People's Choice Awards"
or "Survivor." Just more worthless American schtick.
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 12:49 PM
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15. Pinocchio
A(nother) year of lies and public relations campaigns passing for policy deserves a proper representative.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:01 PM
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16. The PNAC'ers
They single handedly f*cked up the world and made the United States the most hated country on earth. PNAC spans all the players and businesses involved, like Halliburton.

The troops are just pawns. Brave yes, but still just pawns.

Saddam was not a threat and he was marginalized. He was nothing until Bush attacked.

Bush is just a puppet of the PNAC'ers.

Dean is my second choice, but PNAC still had more world changing impact.
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libview Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:21 PM
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17. George Bush and Tony Blair
biggest mass murderers in history
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:45 PM
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24. Thats ridiculous,
what about Stalin and Pol Pot?

The proper title would be the biggest mass murderers of this millennia.
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:50 PM
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19. The American Soldier? No way!
You mean the ones who murder wounded Iraqi soldiers who are presenting NO THREAT to ANYONE?

Seriously, you mean these guys?:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5365.htm

Wow. Well, I suppose. After all, Hitler was Person of the Year once too, wasn't he?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:50 PM
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25. Not all American soldiers are doing that- in fact, very few are.
EOM
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:11 AM
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35. There are 130,000 US soldiers participating in a war crime...
I don't call that "very few"!
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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:44 AM
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37. you sure just a few?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 07:45 AM by OrAnarch
Only a few soldiers particpated in the war and killed the innocent Iraqi soldiers? Did the others just cheer from the sidelines? All would be different if this was a just offensive war or a defensive war, but the oppossing forces truly had all the right to defend their homeland and were murdered for it.


Im sorry, but youd probably also tell me that a guy who breaks into my house has the moral highground to shoot back and kill me too.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:52 PM
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20. Rachel Corrie would have been a good choice
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:38 PM
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22. Every time I think about Rachel Corrie
I cry. I don't know what kind of world it is that someone would deliberately run over an unarmed young woman with a bulldozer. Israel peed in their collective chili that day, as far as I am concerned.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 04:01 AM
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33. Rachel Corrie is a GREAT Choice! She'd get my vote!

:thumbsup:
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:57 PM
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21. Cant think of anyone who deserves it this year.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:57 PM
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26. gangaji = antoinette varner
www.gangaji.org

... person of the year

She has completely transformed the lives of 1000's of americans for the better through her spiritual work, and is on public broadcast television across the western USA and canada, including in prisons where her results are astounding with hardened criminals.

Namo Gangaji Hare

namaste,
-s
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:06 PM
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:11 PM
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28. Buh-bye
Got what going? Over 3 million jobs gone? Hundreds of dead American troops and thousands of dead Iraqis and Afghanis? Yeah, George is a real prize.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:31 PM
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29. Bev Harris for Person of the Year!!!!!!!!
She exposed the GOP Voting Machine Conspiracy!!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 11:34 PM
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30. Roy Jones Jr.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:20 AM
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31. Americans
Military and civilians alike, we've put up with attack after attack on our country, and humilitation after humiliation at the hands of Bush and his henchmen. Yet we continue to fight back,mobilizing for the day when Wesley Clark smacksdown DeLay and then says, "You want a piece of me?" to Ann Coulter.

I heard a rumor that she is really a man, or a transexual. Is that true? I mean, it's not cool to hit women,even Ann Coulter, but surely some special arrangement could be made for her trial. Public flogging by minimum wage workers?

I'd pay to see that.


:grr:

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 03:29 AM
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32. Blair and Chirac
it was blair's backing for the iraq war which helped to get any support that it did. and chirac led the opposition and united the nations against bullying bush bush. and their actions had a huge impact on relations among various european nations and the united states. and it continues to especially with what to do with iraq.
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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 07:40 AM
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36. PM Cretian
For showing us how to not attack people.
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reachout Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:30 PM
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39. Blix
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