This can't be happening...Remember the FL Voter Purge?

[JanMichael]

From "the Only in Florida" files...

The unbelievably corrupt/inept people behind your favorite 20th Century Jim Crow-like companies, Choice Point and database technologies (Founded by Hank Asher), are now behind a Florida creation called "Matrix". Basically it's yet another database, with all of your info, at the ready for whomever has the software. They don't need a reason anymore. Yes there's already a lot of information out there but this is from a corrupted company and is likely as lousy as the software that "scrubbed" the Florida Voter Rolls of non-Felon Blacks and Dems.

This is not a "good thing" people.

http://www.wtsp.com/tallahassee/capital_article.aspx?storyid=5224

http://www.whoseflorida.com/fdle/fdle.htm#Florida%20Creates

Here's the Democracy Now! discussion on the mother of all fishing rods...

http://democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/07/1427223#transcript

GREG PALAST: Yeah, well, Amy, and Juan, it's De Ja Vu all over again, I can't believe it. My good friend Hank Asher is back with another alias this one is Seisint. For those who read my book or Michael Moore's back, database technologies, his old company is the organization that came up with the list now up to 97,000 names of supposed felons in Florida who are scrubbed off the voter roles before the presidential election, it turns out almost every name on that list was an innocent person, they were named as felons by this company, by Hank Asher's company, named at felons, they weren't felons, they lost their vote and, surprise, most of them were African Americans. And that fixed our election.

Hank is back. Now Hank was thrown off the board of the company he founded by the U.S. Drug enforcement agency. Because of his connections to Bahamian drug dealers, they said if that guy is on we don't want anything to do with him because of his connections. So here he is back with a different costume on. And up to the same tricks, first he is such a wonderful guy, of course first thing he's doing is jumping on the September 11th war on terror bandwagon see if he can suck a few bucks out that have one, too. So the first thing he's doing is giving away supposedly free software that's exactly what his last company did with Database Technologies to strub the voter roles.

Unbelievable...What the heck are we supposed to do here? We're being robbed of both tax dollars and civil rights by the BFEE.

This has got to be stopped.

[leetrisck]

1. It's TIA - just happens to be in Florida

and has some federal dollars - several states involved - probably all by now - in other words, Poindexter, bush & co are alive and well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Agreed

seems they will NOT QUIT until they have a police state to their liking

[LoZoccolo]

3. Don't let yourself get purged.

Seeing how so many people were purged incorrectly last time, I don't think it's an unreasonable idea to find out who to call to see if you are purged and check periodically.

[LoZoccolo]

4. Also...

...which states have these purges? I live in Illinois, and I don't think we have it.

[markus]

19. Voter purges

We are sort of hijacking this thread, but on voter purges:

I first ran into this in '86 in the Louisiana Senate Race, and it was already a well established GOP practice.

As it is ususally targeted at voter rights states, it should just be made flat out illegal.

There have been federal judge rulings to stop it, but they just move on and focus on different federal judicial jurisdictions.

[cosmicdot]

5. and, Seisint is one of Accenture's alliances ... and, Accenture ...

... formerly part of Andersen and a Bermuda-based company, was selected by Cruella Harris to do the database in place now ... and Accenture has alliances with Halliburton (Landmark Graphics Corporation) and Microsoft (Avanade) ... lots of begetting going on ...


In their global alliance, Accenture and Seisint are uniting their considerable strengths to help organizations fully capitalize on massive amounts of data to reinvent their customer relationships. The two companies are developing customer relationship management (CRM) solutions for Global 1000 companies to help them to dramatically improve business performance by using data at a speed, scale and cost effectiveness that was previously unattainable.

http://www.accenture.com/xd/xd.asp?it=enweb&xd=industries%5Cproducts%5Ccgs%5Cseisint.xml

Seisint's website
http://www2.seisint.com/welcome.html

[slaveplanet]

15. from the web-

http://www.nukespam.org/OptInInc.html

WebUnited's pedigree looks like this:

Spammer eData.com changed its name to Seisint, Inc.
Spamhaus eDirect was a wholly-owned subsidiary of spamhaus Seisint.
Spamhaus eDirect merged with spammer Naviant.
Massive spamhaus Naviant bought (marketer? spamhaus?) DataOneMarketing.
Massive spamhaus Naviant bought a majority interest in 24/7 Real Media1s
24/7 Mail (spam?) division.
Spamhaus WebUnited and spamhaus CiberLynx were both owned by massive
spammer SweepsClub.
Massive spamhaus Naviant bought massive spamhaus SweepsClub.
Massive spamhaus Naviant was bought by spamhaus / credit reporting giant
Experian. equifax?

Thus, WebUnited is now part of what is apparently the world's largest
spamhaus... unless they got sold off along the line and I didn't happen
to hear about it.

In any case, It would take a major realignment of the planets -- and
probably a few globular clusters -- for WebUnited to change its hue to
anything but pink.

http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-list/2002-September/016386.html

BOCA RATON, FL. January 8, 2001—After the largest merger in e-mail marketing history, it was announced that Michael Brauser would become CEO and President of Naviant. The recent merger of Naviant and eDirect compiled the databases of the two giant e-mail pioneers into a mega-base of unprecedented proportions, comprising more than 60 million consumer profiles.   
Prior to the merger of Naviant and eDirect, Mr. Brauser was President, CEO and founder of eDirect, Inc., a 100% owned subsidiary of Seisint, Inc.
http://www.naviant.com/newsa.html

My second summer working there, after eDirect had split off into its own corporation, I worked as a software developer and system security engineer for the production and development networks for Seisint, Inc. I worked with a team of UNIX administrators to create clustered systems for large scale data mining operations. Our systems worked with over 70 Terabytes of data to perform demographic research for corporations such as American Express, United Postal Service, and Blockbuster Video.
http://www.hcs.ufl.edu/~weiss/

BOCA RATON, Fla. - Naviant, Inc., collector of Opt-in consumer data and industry leader in permission-based email marketing, has completed a $30 million expansion round. The private placement was led by new investor Austin Ventures and included existing investors TL Ventures and Softbank Capital Partners. Funding will be used for acquisitions and growth.

August 16, 2002

Equifax buys Boca's Naviant for $135 million

Atlanta-based Equifax Inc. has bought e-mail marketer Naviant Inc., in a cash deal Thursday worth $135 million.
Naviant, based in Boca Raton, garnered media attention for giving away luxury cars each year in online sweepstakes contests.
But within its industry, it is known for building a giant database of e-mail addresses obtained with the permission of users. It developed a revenue stream and attracted enough venture capital to have kept it independent for as long as it wanted.

Mail out of order
Glamorous locations, death threats and big money deals. Neil McIntosh reports on the battle for control of your inbox
Neil McIntosh
Thursday February 27, 2003
The Guardian
Golden beaches, palm tree-lined streets, manicured golf courses and giant motor yachts moored at the marinas: Boca Raton in Florida is a millionaire's paradise. It's also the spam capital of the world.
"The amount of spammers resident in Boca Raton is incredible," says Steve Linford, a London-based catcher of the unwanted emails that deluge almost every inbox in the world. "There are really only 150 spammers doing 90% of all the spam we get in the US and Europe... at least 40 of them are in Boca Raton."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4613721-110837,00.html

The (very unofficial) History of JPI, Clarion and SoftVelocity
-snip-
Database Technologies and eData
One big Clarion customer in the early 90's, just across the road from the TopSpeed office, was Database Technologies.  DBT specialises in storing very large quantities of data, including drivers license numbers and credit histories, and allows insurance companies, law firms, private investigators, and law enforcement and government agencies to search it's database.  DBT initially recruited from TopSpeed, and a number of people did move across the street from TopSpeed to DBT.
In 1998 another large data processing company emerged in Florida.  eData was founded by the same man, Hank Asher, who had originally started DBT, and as such eData based it's original technology on that used by DBT - Clarion.   From somewhere (venture capital? personal savings?) eData acquired a lot of backing, and started heavily recruiting Clarion programmers, paying substantial salaries and costs for developers to move to Florida to work for them.-snip-

With the push of a button, according to Seisint and FDLE officials, MATRIX will spew out individuals' Social Security numbers, pictures, birth dates, current addresses, old addresses going back 30 years, phone numbers and the names of others living at their addresses. Credit applications and credit reports, descriptions of properties they own, when they bought them, what they paid to whom, the property taxes paid, their driving histories and violations records and their driver's license and vehicle registration information all will be shown. So will the names, pictures, phone numbers, birth dates and addresses going back 20 to 30 years of their relatives, associates and neighbors.
My first reaction on reading this was that if anyone believes this kind of data would be secure in the hands of a private company, I'd like to sell them some choice oceanfront property I own in Kansas.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2003-11-10-campbell_x.htm

According to a report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement,
>Asher admitted to smuggling drugs in 1982 but refused to elaborate.
>Agents developed "corroborating information" that "during 1981 and
>1982, Asher piloted five to seven plane loads of cocaine from
>Colombia to the United States," the report stated.
>
>Asher told investigators "he had shown a lack of judgment during
>that period," according to the FDLE report. Asher was not charged
>with a crime and cooperated with federal investigators, the report
>stated.http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/1003/10matrix.html


and a parting thought -Timeline early 80's: Hank Asher owned a home near Cistern Cay airport, Bahamas...Cistern Cay was so notorious that it was closed permanently(concrete pylons sunk directly into tarmac).
Cistern cay is a stones throw from Great Harbour Cay airstrip- GHC was used by Richard Healy (of Iran/Contra Fame) to fly weapons to John Hull's airstrips in Costa Rica, Columbia Cocaine back to GHC and on to small FLA airstrips.

[JanMichael]

16. These people are a cancer on the World.

Great links, thanks.

[Killarney]

6. If someone is wrongly purged and not notified (via letter or whatever)...

can't they sue? There has to be a charge here somewhere. Not allowing a citizen to cast their vote... there must be a charge they could use...

[Code_Name_D]

7. Sure they can sue

But they can't vote.

[Ksec]

8. drop the victim mentality and go on the offensive

This has to stop. What say we start doing civil unrest.

[JanMichael]

9. Yo. I co-host a fucking anti-BUSH radio show.

I'm tied into the local Dems and I'm organising my co-workers.

Not a "victim", thanks.

I used the tone to try to elicite some fucking anger.

k'?

[Ksec]

10. I wasnt specifically referring to you JanMichael

But from the tone of your post Id say it may have struck a nerve.

[JanMichael]

14. Nah just a tad inebriated.

No harm no foul.

[Snazzy]

13. I'm mad as hell and not going to take it anymore! n/t

[mandyky]

11. I think we need to cal in the UN free and fair voting

monitors. First Diebold, and now this?! Yeesh.

[Snazzy]

12. Choicepoint "acquired" 65 million Mexican voters in Nov.

Someone got busted for that here too. Sorry no handy link.

I bet this ties into the visa/photo/fingerprint database deal announced by DHS today. And also the agreement last week by the EU to ship the US some sort of mannifests on inbound flights.

I have to go grab grub or I would hunt those links, sorry!--but seems to add up to some sort of giant TIA monster is alive and well. They're doing it anyway, without an overt Poindexter and with popular (sorta) bipartisan disapproval. Just like Patriot II.

[Q]

17. I wonder how many Americans...

...really understand the type of fraud and corruption that went on in Florida in 2000?

- Some of the names on that 'purged' list of supposed felons were listed as committing felonies in 2007...in the future! Yet..Harris accepted this list after telling election workers to simply erase the dates.

- Amazing stuff that the media won't report.

[rman]

18. Some of the names

were on that list because they have the same surname as fellons, some names were on the list because they have the same birthday as fellons. All in all the majority of names shouldn't be on that list.
And now the software used to make that list is going to be mandatory (see gregpalast.com).