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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:13 PM
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Are you starting to realize that you are being programmed?
We at DU are massive consumers of propaganda.

We read every bit of progressive propaganda and analyze conservative propaganda to death.

But the latest propaganda is more subtle and harder to recognize. It passes itself off as letters to the editor in newspapers around the country. It passes itself off as posting on a message board. And Maybe it even passes itself for current events.

For example, are we supposed to believe through Kobe, OJ and Michael Jackson, that all black people are really just rapists, murderers and child molesters just waiting for a chance?

How does this play into the right's position that minorities are to be ignored? Just a coincidence that these things have happened and gotten the media play they have received? How is it that OJ happened to have a racist friend of Lucianne that was accused of planting the bloody glove?

Does Astroturfing go beyond words into the creation of synthetic events? Events that teach us moral lessons about the nature of the universe?

Are we being hornswoggled?

Better question, why wouldn't they try to do this? They keep talking about a revolution and "changing people". What better way to go about it then changing peoples beliefs through gaining their confidence in events that they have "witnessed"... If you had the motive and the means - secret organizations at your disposal, why would you?

Was that what 911 was? A new Pearl Harbor to get us to go to war?
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primarycolored Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:19 PM
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1. Or handicapped people are always good and noble in the movies.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 11:20 PM by primarycolored
As if their handicapp had something to do with their character.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:41 PM
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2. 9.11 was the Pearl Harbor like event that they needed
and I do not need to see this in the media. The PNAC papers state such

Now what is propaganda is that you NEVER hear anything about PNAC in the so called free media
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:10 AM
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3. Leave it To Beaver, fried my brain.
Wonder bread built strong nothing 12 ways.



a strange reality we have built.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:19 AM
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4. Have you been reading Chomsky? :evilgrin:

Yeah, we really are being bombarded by propaganda, most of it being what is called rules or mores of our culture, I guess.

You should for how race was used by the elite in the past here in America in order to squelch the formation of a Euro-style welfare state.

I myself and many of my fellow immortalists/cryonicists have often wondered just how and why propaganda/culture works to condition people so that they do not want to live forever.

I do not think many actual events are staged for propaganda purposes, however.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:24 AM
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5. Think of the raw dollars that turn on tragedy today
mega media dollars...

at what point does it simply become a profitable insiders game to make things happen?

Obviously this is a fictionally rooted idea, but from fiction comes future fact. I just trust people to have enough on the line to do things like this. How prone are the mega powers to leaving things up to "chance"?
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:53 AM
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6. I don't think I'm being programmed...
...simply because I refuse to swallow 98% of everything I hear, and scrutinize the other 2%.

I do recognize the propaganda -- and all "they" are accomplishing is hardening my shield against it.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:43 AM
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9. I didn't realize just how BAD
and pervasive the effect of public relations campaigns were,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations
until I discovered the work of Edward L. Bernays.
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

You think you own your mind and you think you are independent, but you think that only because you have been programmed to think that way.

For example,
many little girls go through the ballerina phase
http://www.prmuseum.com/bernays/bernays_1915.html
and a lot of women who smoke think that they are independent and assertive - not future cancer casualties of the Virginia Slims PR campaign.

Most of the information reaching you has passed through multiple filters and has been censored half to death. That is the reason why it is so very difficult for any one of us to know just how much we are being manipulated.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:10 AM
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10. Very true...
There's no way to know.

And, to be perfectly honest, if anyone is programming me, it's myself -- I've spent a lifetime trying not to give in to my worst suspicions about absolutely everything, solely in fear of being labeled a conspiracy theorist.

There's nothing warmer than a security blanket woven of denial.

And then, more often than not, I find out I was right all along...
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:02 AM
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7. Bad command or file name
That's what happens when they try to program me. :D
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:13 AM
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8. Syntax error...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:30 AM
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11. Yup. And it's the method,
not the content.
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