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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:47 PM
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Its here! First case of mad cow infection in American HUMAN
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 03:15 PM by Must_B_Free
Ailing pol forced to step down

Maxine Postal, the presiding officer of the Suffolk County Legislature, announced yesterday that she is retiring at the end of the year because she has been diagnosed with a rare brain disorder.
Postal, 61, recently was diagnosed with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a degenerative disorder akin to mad cow disease that causes rapid, progressive dementia.

http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/story/148369p-130892c.html

FIRST, MAD COW, NEXT, MAD SHEEP!
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:48 PM
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1. Creutzfeldt-Jakob is NOT mad cow
They are both prion diseases, but they are NOT the same disease. It's like saying Aids and the Flu were the same disease because they're both caused by viruses....
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:52 PM
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2. Mad Cow Disease is the name when cows get sick. Creutzfeldt-Jakob
is the human form. That's my understanding of the situation. This means she has a terminal disease that will eat away her brain, and kill her.
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:57 PM
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3. It MAY be the human version
of a "prion" that may or may not have had to mutate to jump species. A prion is an infectious protein that causes other proteins to change and repeat the disordered pattern.

The same disorder has existed in the past among cannabalistic tribes in New Guinea as well as other places. Because of the mystery surrounding the "prion" it may have gone by other names (Kuru), but is most likely essentially the same illness.

The timing of this is extraordinary. First cow discovered, first human discovered...........
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:59 PM
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6. Next you'll see
...countries banning imports of human meat...
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:02 PM
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7. Those insensitive bastards
don't they know it's custom for some to eat Grandpa? Why, oh why, must traditions be challenged.

huh? :)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:41 PM
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20. they are the same disease,,Creutzfeldt-Jakob = mad cow in humans
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 05:49 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/priondiseases/a/080600.htm
Mad cow and Humans

Degenerative fatal brain disorder

Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is the "mad cow" disease that people contract when they are exposed to food contaminated with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE). BSE does not exist in the United States, and strict regulations have prevented it from being imported from Europe.


LIE
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:57 PM
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4. That is so sad. I wonder how many of us have it but not showing
symptoms yet.

Some questions, is the US still using ground up cows and such for feed? What is the percentage of cows checked for the disease?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:03 PM
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9. yes the US still feeds cows to cows and
who knows the percentage checked when the USDA refuses to reveal any Mad Cow testing information.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:59 PM
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5. According to the CDC, about 250 people in the U.S.
Get it each year, making CJD a very rare disorder. There is no link among these cases and the variant CJD that was seen in Britain among younger people who had eaten beef contaminated by mad cow.
http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/fact/cjd.htm
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:02 PM
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8. Calm down.......Jeez
:eyes:
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:04 PM
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10. rare, but not the first CJD case in the USA
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:21 PM
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11. Several Americans have gotten it from infected venison in the past. n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:27 PM
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12. My understanding of CJD is that it can only be diagnosed
absolutely postmortem, with a brain dissection. Is there another test for it now? A new MRI or PET screening perhaps?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:32 PM
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13. yet, obviously
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 03:34 PM by Must_B_Free
they were treating the still living young people in britian with the disease... so how did they diagnose it?

funny how 143 people so far in Britain have the disease and it's "mad cow".

250+ people in the US get it evey year an it's a "rare illness"
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:34 PM
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14. More on CJD
"There are three main causes for classic CJD. Inherited CJD runs in families and is caused by a mutation in the gene coding for the normal prion protein. Sporadic CJD has no known genetic or infectious cause.

CJD through infection is transmitted by prions. The individual is infected through direct or indirect contact with body tissues of an infected person. Following are some examples of this transmission: áÊcontaminated surgical instruments áÊcorneal transplants of eye tissue from an infected person áÊgrafts of brain membranes from an infected individual áÊinjection of human growth hormone from the pituitary of an infected cadaver

There is a strong link between mad cow disease and the new variant of CJD. Most scientists believe that this new variant CJD is the human form of mad cow disease. It is believed that the abnormal prion is transmitted from infected cattle to humans when the person eats meat or beef products. "

There are 250 deaths by CJD annually, but a study at Yale showed that many Alzheimers patients actually had CJD.
CJD and vCJD are probably underdiagnosed because a postmortem brain exam must be performed.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:02 PM
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16. More thoughts I found on Yahoo
"I don't think you're appreciating the *potential* seriousness of this. It's not a matter of skipping beef for a few weeks. The animal was born in 1999. It take several years for cows to become ill enough to display symptoms that make them downers i.e. they can't walk into the trailers on their own. If this feed was fed to more than one animal...likely, dontcha think, then those animals potentially have been infected. If those animals were beef cows and not dairy cows i.e. destined deliberately for the meat market, then their turnaround may be quick enough for the animals never to get sick. IOW, the prion tainted meat was in the food supply since 1999. While muscle meat is not thought to transmit the prions this is definitely speculation...there is still not very much known about this, and hamburger and hot dog meat processing uses cutting and scraping devices that definitely scrape up along the spine and combine that with muscle meat. "

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138530&tid=apmadcow&sid=37138530&mid=8199
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:57 PM
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15. Our world is suddenly a very different place with this news
of the cows and the people and the prions.

From here on, the pace of change -- for worse and for better -- will get a lot faster.

Because of Christmas, it may take a few days for the public to get a mental grasp of what is going on here -- the implications.

My suggestion: look to the emerging form of the local Community Farm (CSA) as a way to ensure a clean, local supply of food. Just google CSA or Community Supported Agriculture. There are hundreds of them in the US already, and we should create thousands more.

CSA farms already work for hundreds of thousands of families, and-- and they can help answer the massive problems engendered by corporo-industrial agriculture.

http://www.chiron-communications.com/farms-1.html
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:10 PM
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17. Radiation from Chernobyl/nuke pollution caused this
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 04:15 PM by seventhson
Mad Cow started shortly after the animals in Northern Britain were exposed. The prion is mutated protein which is practically indestructible. It is not going away.


The South Pacific variety coincides with nuke testing in the 1940's and 50's.

But the true cause is being kept secret by the Halliburton-dominated nuclear industry.

Washington is full of the Hanford leakage.

That is what I believe. It may seem a stretch but in the 1950's Andrei Sakharov predicted these mutations and mass illnesses which resulted in his becoming a "refusenik" on Nukes and falling out of favor with the Soviets. He was the father of the Soviet H-Bomb. But he said pandemics would begin to result which mankind was not prepared to deal with.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:40 PM
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18. SeventhSon speaks to the heart of the matter,
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 04:42 PM by SpiralHawk
in my view.

The nuclear Genies are coming home to roost.

It will require something of a higher order to come to an honest reckoning with them, and BushCo has no such tendencies, seems instead bent on the Path of Arrogance. Nuclear Genie no like this. Wants a reverent relationship. But the Authorities No Comprende.

All this, too, shall pass -- far sooner, I feel, than any entity in the service of BushCo & Cronies, and their circle of Skull & Bones -- could ever imagine.

Light is returning,
Even though it is the darkest hour.
No one can hold back the dawn.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:03 PM
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19. Check this out about prions....
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