"Old men make wars so young men fight" and as long as "starry eyed

[KoKo]

romantics" seek new frontiers, the old men will have willing troops to fight their ill begotten, ill conceived wars against humanity.

And, as long as we have children we will see one or two or more of them defy us and search for their "own" truth, and come back in a "body bag" or "not whole." No matter what we do, this will happen, but I hope that there will always be those of us who Fight, Fight to stop it. Even if we lose our most loved because they followed "their own star."

As one who remembers Viet Nam, I can't help but wonder how this could have happened again, so soon....so soon. That the same men "now old" could have us "back at it again." Not in the name of fighting Communism this time, but "Terrorism." The causes will always have partriotic names, but the motivations can be very different. Witness WWII and think about Korea, Viet Nam and now the Middle East. And students of history what was WWI all about? The nerve gas and those in Britain who died in the "trenchs" fighting for "Old Men."

This is something I found which speaks to what I feel about "Modern Wars for Liberation." Not wars fought for "defense," as I feel WWII was about....defense of the World. There have been few Wars as "clear cut" as WWII for civilization to deal with.
Koko



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VISIONS OF AN OLD WOMAN
C.2003 M. BENNETT HOOPER

Old men make war and young men make babies and one wonders if that does not translate into envy at a level never before spoken.
Which is why in my fantasy and under my government the old men who make war would be marched upon an open field as their armies watched and permitted no required to fight each other to the death.
Twenty or more old men killing themselves and each other might abolish the need for war.
Combatants would march upon the field in groups of twenty to a kill much like the gladiators of a more barbaric past as young men watch for a new survivor.

The power mad and the power hungry could next take the field and killing could be reduced to hundreds instead of hundreds of thousands.
Body counts would be mandatory until those watching remember Moses’ instructions to the Levites to kill father, brother, and kin for evil transgressions against God.
For all wars in the carnal are intrinsically evil when one forgets who the real profiteers are.
Evil is no respecter of alleged religious persuasions for it abounds everywhere
In The Christian, The Moslem, The Jew, The Buddhist, The Hindu, The Sikh, The Taoist, The Atheist and yes even you and I are tainted with impurities.

So I ask you parents of the young will you join in my vision and send the old men off to war.
The old men who harbor hatred as if it was ever anything more than genocide’s tool.
The old men for whom the death angel awaits closer than they can comfortably bear.
The old men who dream dreams of I remember as they become piranhas tearing at the flesh of youth which screams I am the product of a new vision.
The old men who finance biological poison and germs to kill humanity.


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[MisterP]

1. if you ask me, idealism, romanticism, and seeking one's own path

don't "feed the meatgrinder"; wars are fed by a tangled web of obfuscations, half-truths, and fluffy glittering generalities that lure in the unwary, willing, and those primed for it by culture and climate

[Cha]

2. And when a government lets a 9/11

happen whether by chance or not and feeds on that fear factor. :nuke:

[Malva Zebrina]

3. I am a big believer in letting children, after they have achieved

maturity, find their own truth.

I, or any parent, will not be around forever to save them or to help them according to our own interpretation of what they need to be "helped" amd to survive. NOT

It is exceedingly anxiety ridden and agonizing to allow one's children to go off and find their own path. Heavens--we know their faults and we want so bad to take over and protect them, even if they are thirty or forty years old!

It does not work that way and we can mourn that. But real parental love will suffer that and allow the child to develop on it's own after it reaches maturity.

Fortunately, my children seemed to be born between the cracks so I have not had to suffer the anxiety of them going off to fight a war and be exposed to danger or possible loss of life. They are of that unique age. For that I am grateful.

I do have a nephew that went to West Point, and that is probably the most vulnerable of all my relatives. He is a helicopter pilot but so far has not been assigned to duty in Iraq, but is fortunate enough to be invovled with recruitment, instead of active war duty. He has just become a new dad also.


We must let out children go, once they are grown.

We cannot continue to defend them ad infinitum, and insult their wonderful intelligence and their individuality by attemting, as if they were five year old little ones, to run their lives after they have achieved adulthood and to take a stand in their defense whenever they are being attacked in one form or another.

We insult our own children by attempting to do this.

They are, after all, perfectly capable of running their own lives without us, are they not? Did we not grow them up to be so? and we need to support that in love by not interfering, because we, their parents, are not in the same slot or the same generation and we, as much as we think we are so very wise, do not have the knowledge to do so after a certain point.

Painful as it may be for some, that is just another one of those "pangs" that parents are wont to suffer, but, the wise parent will allow their children to go on without them or be dependant upon their input.

It is not applicable or practical after a certain amount of time, and can even be detrimental to the grown child, who has grown up and is approcaching his thirty some years to have a parent still defend them or treat them as if they were little children unable to defend themself.

Not wise or recommended to still be that "parent" after your child has achieved adulthood.