Hooded Men Executing Saddam Officials

[DuctapeFatwa]

Major-General Khalaf al-Alousi, a former director of the secret police in Baghdad, was assassinated on a Sunday afternoon this month when he visited a home he was renovating in Yarmouk. His wife, Um Ali, described how two men in black hoods were waiting for them in the yard and another in the house, and how she knew they were going to kill her husband . "I shouted and begged them not to do it, for the sake of his daughters," she said. The ex-general tried to talk to his killers. "I never saw such calm before," Um Ali said later. The gunmen fired 17 bullets into their victim.

The guard on the house, Wisam Eidan, had earlier found the men in the yard. "One of them showed me an ID written in English with his picture, and he told me, 'don't argue with the CIA and keep your mouth shut'." In fact, al-Alousi's family suspect Iranian agents were responsible. He was, they said, in contact with the American-created Governing Council.

Among the most savage of the recent killings came when Dhamia Abbas, a teacher walking to school with her two sons in Najaf, was sprayed with bullets from an AK-47 rifle. "I left the Baath party five years ago," she said from her hospital bed. "But they have been threatening me and following me. I was wearing a full veil when they shot me. I want to take my sons and leave Iraq." What Mrs Abbas did not know when she said this was that one of her two boys, aged four, had already died of his wounds.

The local police admit that they have not solved a single crime against ex-Baathists, acknowledging that they will themselves become targets if they attempt to do so. The killers are supposedly receiving $250 for every Baathist they eliminate...

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article5432.htm

[solinvictus]

1. Mossad

n/t

[librechik]

3. could be us--the Mossad is training us in their assassination

techniques

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/12/282643.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. We are working with the Mossad

in Iraq. Sounds like a joint operation.

[November 2004]

5. to #'s 1 & 3 & 4

What sort of prejudice might you have to jump to the conclusion that it's the Mossad when there are very active and very angry groups of Iraqi people who despised everything Saddam and his supporters did to them and the Kurds?

Revealing responses, tho. :eyes:



edited to add #4 after the poster jumped on the bandwagon

[bowens43]

8. see post #6

This is Israel's forte. his is what they do and we know they are training USA personnel at Ft Bragg and in Israel. Not much of jump from there to joint missions.

[xchrom]

9. how many innocnt people have to be killed

to get one lousy dictator to make you happy?
my god between the food for oil and depleted uranium and accidental bombings and firing into cars for no reason -- how much blood does there have to be for you?

[kalian]

21. "Revealing responses..."?

what is your malfunction? The Mossad is NOTORIOUS for creating
death squads to "get rid" of "undesirables". What's more...they can
and WILL do it here in the States as well.
Remember that Sharon has a policy of "pre-emptive assassination"...
:eyes:
Sickening...

[MikeGalos]

11. Well, that's patently insane

Do you really think we're not able to do this on our own?

For that matter, if we weren't going to do it alone, wouldn't we use the allies we usually use for torture and other operations not legal for US forces? In case you don't know, that would be Egypt and Jordan where our prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are shipped for occasional "visits" when we want answers that aren't allowed under US law.

I'd really like to see why you assume Israel? Could it be just a matter of picking on a country you personally dislike rather than caring for the facts and history of the matter?

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. You need to open your eyes to reality

The Guardian

Israel trains US assassination squads in Iraq

Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday December 9, 2003

Israeli advisers are helping train US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations in Iraq, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders, US intelligence and military sources said yesterday.

The Israeli Defence Force (IDF) has sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and according to two sources, Israeli military "consultants" have also visited Iraq.

US forces in Iraq's Sunni triangle have already begun to use tactics that echo Israeli operations in the occupied territories, sealing off centres of resistance with razor wire and razing buildings from where attacks have been launched against US troops.

But the secret war in Iraq is about to get much tougher, in the hope of suppressing the Ba'athist-led insurgency ahead of next November's presidential elections.

more....



Okay, most of us around here base our posts upon facts. We are not making this shit up as we go along.

[kalian]

17. Of course he doesn't....

bias tends to blind a man. :eyes:
And lest we forget that are "cheery old friend" Sharon has authorized
Mossad to assassinate people HERE IN THE US. Need we say more...?

[MikeGalos]

27. Uh huh

Sure they do. Those people putting the voices in your head are really the Mossad...

Care to document that silliness from a reputable source (not the Weekly World News...)

[RBHam]

29. Here's a link...

Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
By Richard Sale, UPI Newswire
January 15, 2003

Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with UPI.

With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new director Israel's Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is also preparing "a huge budget" increase for the spy agency as part of "a tougher stance in fighting global jihad (or holy war)," one Israeli official said.

more...
http://www.newsfrombabylon.com/article.php?sid=2746

[MikeGalos]

28. So you're changing your mind

and are saying that it was the US who did it?

[kalian]

16. Maybe...maybe not....

Mossad would simply blow up his car or something. Maybe shoot him
from a distance. They wouldn't risk having one of their evildoers
caught.

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. Who said life under Saddam was worse?

If this isn't worse, it is a least just as bad.

[slackmaster]

7. Every Iraqi I have spoken with said things were worse under Saddam

No exceptions. Saddam sucked. Things aren't stable yet but now there is hope that they will get better.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Just curious

You have direct contact with average Iraqis who are in country and don't live in the Green Zone?

[slackmaster]

12. No, in fairness they are all expatriates

Intellectuals, business people, and their families who left Iraq because of the abuses of the Baathist regime. They are doctors, teachers, and ordinary folks who run every local Zippy Mart within a couple of miles of my home. San Diego County is home to about 25,000 Iraqi-Americans.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Thanks for the response

but I think there is a big difference between the opinion of ex-pats and the people who are living under the reality of US Occupation.

[slackmaster]

26. Um, just who presently occupies much of North America?

:D

[ChemEng]

19. Iraq has not had peace since the Baathists

took over in the 60s. No telling how many Iraqis were murdered by Saddam (500,000?), or Iranians, or Kuwatis. One can only hope that as time passes that they will achieve a true civil society.

With that much history of killing, I would not be in the least surprised that a relative of one murdered by Saddam would feel justified in killing Baathists. Revenge killing is not unknown in that part of the world.

[alfredo]

23. But there is concern that the cure will be worse than the disease

We have seen it happen before. Look at Chile under Pinochet as a prime example.

[Terwilliger]

24. the Baathists...brought to you by the CIA

and supported by the US up until 1990

[bowens43]

6. US Special forces were recently redeployed with a new mission

US death squads?

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/reiland/s_170712.html

"A revitalized Special Forces mission is a policy victory for Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, who has struggled for two years to get the military leadership to accept the strategy of what he calls 'Manhunts' -- a phrase that he has used both publicly and in internal Pentagon communications," writes Seymour Hersh in The New Yorker's Dec. 15 issue. "According to American and Israeli military and intelligence officials, Israeli commandos and intelligence units have been working closely with their American counterparts at the Special Forces training base at Fort Bragg, N.C., and in Israel to help them prepare for operations in Iraq."

[kalian]

18. Yup...taught by the Israelis....

that and the razor wiring of villages.
Yup..same tactics...different country.

[RBHam]

15. Death Squads

Where's the outrage? America has become Nazi Germany.

[kalian]

20. There will no outrage...

this will become the norm and remember that the sheeple have already
been brainwashed to believe that a "dead arab is a good arab"...
:eyes:

[Yupster]

22. Time magazine just had a story on this

Take a look at the December 1 issue, the one with Bush's beat up face on the cover. Page 58. It covers a group of Iraqis who have committed themselves to vengeance against Saddam's regime.

"A construction worker, ... Jasmin, 31 has scores to settle."

He was tortured in 1999 with electric shocks to his penis. Now he is part of a cell that is systematically murdering members of Saddam's ex-regime. It's like a star chamber. They meet formally, discuss who to kill, vote on it, and then kill them.

"Most of the two dozen or so Baathists killed recently in Basra were teachers. Some teachers had senior positions in the old regime,but many others had joined the Baath Party just to further their careers."

The bodies are dumped in a lot with a letter identifying them as members of the odl regime.

"Iraqi police profess helplessness in the face of the revenge spree."

I read somewhere else that an Iraqi policeman said there were only 50 or so Baathists in his town, so the killing would end soon. That was in response to over 30 of them having been murdered in the last three months, and the police not doing anything about it.

It also talked about how the doctors who had cut ears and tongues off of deserters have been murdered.

[sid dicious]

25. The KKK in Iraq?

Could be US, Iranians, Citizens who hate the former regime, Citizens for the former regime, who knows?

[RBHam]

30. Saddam's not the only one who "knows too muuch"...

Just cleaning up loose ends, Black Ops style...

And like post #22 indicates, there will be no shortage of local recruits to help carry out the de-Baathification of Iraq.
In every way possible.

[Character Assassin]

31. Oh, bullshit. This is transparent to the point of absurdity

"One of them showed me an ID written in English with his picture, and he told me, 'don't argue with the CIA and keep your mouth shut'."

Uh-huh. Yeah.

[Andy_Stephenson]

32. Operation Whitestar...

and Phoenix...Alive and well in the 21st century.