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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:51 PM
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Cattle Bones & Connective Tissue used to make ice cream, cake
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 02:03 PM by amen1234

frosting, marshmallows, gummy candies, sour cream, meat aspics, pharmaceutical drug capsules, even paint balls and photographic paper/film...all made from GELATIN extracted from the cattle bones and cattle connective tissues (cattle backbones and brains cause mad-cow disease)....


from the Chemists....published in 'Chemical and Engineering News' (C&EN)...read about gelatin...how gelatin is made from cattle BONES and CONNECTIVE TISSUE.....
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WHAT'S THAT STUFF?

JELL-O
The quintessential American dish is a part of everyone's childhood

CORINNE A. MARASCO, C&EN WASHINGTON
May 19, 2003

-snips-

If you look at the ingredients on a box of Jell-O, you'll see that it's essentially sweetened, flavored, and colored gelatin. Gelatin is basically processed collagen, which is a structural protein in animals' connective tissue, skin, and bones.

Gelatin is used primarily in the food, pharmaceutical, and photographic industries. Most of the gelatin produced is consumed in gelatin desserts and confections such as marshmallows and gummy candies. It's also used as an emulsifier, stabilizer, or thickener in foods such as ice cream, sour cream, meat aspics, and cake frostings.

In the pharmaceutical industry, gelatin is used to make the outer shells for hard and soft capsules; it served as a blood plasma substitute during World War II. Gelatin is also used in preparing the silver halide emulsions in the production of photographic paper and film. According to GMIA, a brand-new application for gelatin is in the paint ball industry, which uses gelatin to construct paint balls.

Here are some amazing but true facts about Jell-O that will amuse your friends and family:

-Every day, an average of 758,012 boxes of Jell-O are purchased in the U.S. When hooked up to an electroencephalograph machine--an instrument that records the electrical activity of the brain--Jell-O demonstrates movement virtually identical to the brain waves of a healthy adult man or woman.

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/print/8120jello.html
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:14 PM
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1. Oh my heavens
Think we may all wind up gorwing and eating our own food shortly. :P
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:31 PM
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2. That's why I never eat Jello.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:41 PM
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3. do you eat ice cream, sour cream, cake frostings? also from
GELATIN !!!! and lots of candy, and baked goods are smeared with gelatin-based stuff...unfortunately for all veggie people, you'll find a lot of gelatin stuffed into vegetarian foods too....as an emulsifier, and gravies and more....

don't forget the 'inedible tallow' from the animal waste, which is used to make SOAPS....all soaps, including laundry detergents, hand soaps...all SOAPS...except those pretty GELATIN soaps that you can almost see through...those are made from the bones/connective tissue...
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:03 PM
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7. no
no you won't find a lot of gelatin in vegetarian foods, because gelatin isn't vegetarian. instead you'll find carrageenan (algae), agar agar (seaweed) or another vegetable or fruit based gelling or emulsifying agent. daisy sour cream is gelatin free.

there are many soaps not made with sodium tallowate (beef fat) and/or gelatin. and maybe you're confusing gelatin with glycerine, which can be animal or vegetable derived (i think you're referring to the clear "glycerine soaps.") i usually use kirk's castile, which is made with coconut oil.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:57 PM
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11. Nope
No gelatin or animal soaps in my house...Always use Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Castile soap...Get clean physically and spiritually!
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:25 PM
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13. More Info About Jello
I've kept a copy of this AP article for years, and hand out copies to people who laugh at me for not eating gelatin, after they read it they quit eating it too. It is about the Jello factory in Woburn, Mass.

"Gelatin is made from the hide trimmings of cows and pigs, not from their horns, hooves or meat.
First, the skins are washed and bathed in hot water to remove the collagen. Once extracted, the collagen is soaked, filtered and purified, converting the collagen to gelatin, said Kraft spokeswoman Cathy Pernu.
The gelatin extract is then evaporated and dried, and sent along with flavored powders to Dover, Del., and San Leandro, Calif., for packaging.
Oils that are left in the water baths are sold for pharmaceutical and industrial use.
As the hides are washed in large 70-foot vats, bits of fat, hair and skin come off in the water said Mary Persky, an environmental analyst with Department of Environmantal Protection and one of the few outsiders who has seen the inside of the plant.
"The water's dirty and smell like dead animals," she said."
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:52 PM
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4. Thanks for the info, A.
I knew about some of these products, but not all of them. It really is disgusting how animal products have permeated our food supply and culture. If you want to be a vegan, think of how difficult it is to escape it. You can't.

I gave up eating jell-o about 10 years ago when I found out that it's made from boiled horses' hooves (?). No amount of flavoring could hide the disgusting truth. Whew.

The real problem here is, if this tainted meat has made its way through the system, there is really no way of tracing it. Maybe if they catch it soon enough, they can pull the meat out of production. But the problem is, how much more is tainted? What can we trust?

I'm not sure.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:58 PM
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5. link to another article that I just posted...on the spread of the disease
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 03:04 PM by amen1234


and it also shows that bush* MUST be forced to stop spending money on his useless WARS and start spending money on Chemists' research to detect, control, diagnose, and CURE these horribly devastating prion diseases...that is the solution...and shrub is asleep at the wheel while teenagers DIE....what will it take to WAKE the shrub up?....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=964794

"So, despite the deaths of teenagers, the incompetence of officials, the short-term money-grabbing nature of agriculture, the worldwide spread of disease, and the horror writers in the media, in the end we may find a cure not only for TSEs, but also for other diseases that have been killing people for many years."

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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:59 PM
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6. gelatin is some nasty stuff
I've been avoiding it for some time. Unfortunately a lot of people don't associate it with meat (even less educated veggies).

When I first became a veggie back when I was 14 I still ate gelatin not knowing what it was. Thank goodness I've educated myself on proper vegetarian nutrition.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:28 PM
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8. Perfect way to avoid this
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 03:34 PM by dragonlady
Buy foods that are marked with kosher symbols. There is an extensive kashrut establishment that certifies food that meets the Jewish dietary laws (no mixture of meat and milk products in the same item, and no meat used unless it is slaughtered in a particular way and treated according to specifications). These folks are very serious about this because the rules are a religious commandment, so you can trust them if they say there is no meat product (including gelatin made from animal products) in the item.

Many different groups certify products as kosher, including mainstream products such as those of Hershey, Pillsbury, Nabisco, and thousands of other companies. The most widely used is a U inside a circle, but there are many others. Check here for examples:

http://www.yrm.org/koshersymbols.htm
http://www.koleshah.org/SYMBOLS.HTML
http://women.stormfront.org/symbols/Canada/koshercanada.html

Edit to add: The majority of foods marked kosher are pareve (neither meat nor dairy) and if the symbol stands alone, the item is pareve. If it should contain dairy products, there will be a D next to the symbol. Only a few things contain meat, and if so there will be an M or Meat next to the symbol.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:42 PM
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9. Well, there goes my gummy bear fetish.
And I already make my own soap! Have been doing it for years. I make my soap from all vegetable oils (palm, coconut, olive, etc.) and no animal products.

Its the best soap in the world. Take my word for it. I can't keep enough of it made. My family, scattered over the U.S., demands it for Christmas presents, etc.

I started making it as a lark back in 1996, and slowly perfected my art of making soap. I made a few bad batches, and used supermarket oils that went rancid. Now I know what to use and how to do it so my soap lasts and lasts.

And yes, it is "lye soap," because that is how soap is made. And no, it is not irritating and yes it is moisturizing because I don't remove the natural glycerine that is in the soap, the way manufacturers do.
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EDT Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:53 PM
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10. I await the day when some Vegetarian item turns out deadly-
Though I think vegetarians lead a healthy diet compared to the average fast food eating American, I remember the old Woody Allen movie Sleeper, where he awakes in the future and among all the scientific discoveries made while he was asleep, they inform him that eating red meat and smoking is actually healthy for you.



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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:11 PM
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12. I really miss marshmallows
Haven't eaten them for years but would love to find an alternative. Are there any made without gelatin? I'v been looking but so far have been unsuccessful.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:34 PM
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14. Yes (see post 8 above)
There are kosher marshmallows (made with some kind of vegetable product, like seaweed I believe, and the same sort of thing is put in kosher alternatives to Jello). You may have to go to a store that specializes in kosher products.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 08:37 PM
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15. It's called Agar
Nasty looking (and smelling!) while you're preparing it, but it tastes okay if you flavor it properly.
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