"Iraq...the immediate justification" .....from the PNAC files.

[madfloridian]

This same information is at http://www.newamericancentury.org/
in pdf format. This article covers the salient points.

http://www.sundayherald.com/print27735

SNIP.."A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001.
The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: "The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'.

This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.

We have discussed it often here at DU, but lately I see a lot of folks who now apparently think the Iraq invasion was justified or ok or something that just happened as a mistake. It was no mistake.
It tears me up to see that people are now supporting this.

And though the article says secret, it is not a secret. It is a plan. It is their plan for the future, well-organized, there to read right in front of you.

[wryter2000]

1. It's no secret

It's been on PNAC's website for everyone to see for years. I wonder when the US news media will wake up to that fact. As usual, the British papers are ahead of ours.

[dusty64]

24. Hmmm, I wonder.

Why are so many members and advisors linked so heavily to "terrarists" (for instance, norquist), yet our Pravda press will not speak a word of it.

[bookman]

2. You think it's scary now..

... read on.

- spotlights China for 'regime change' saying 'it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia'. This, it says, may lead to 'American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratization in China';

- calls for the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the Internet against the US;




"I think we've gone over to the Dark Side."

[pinto]

3. tho the article link is a year old, I'm glad anytime PNAC gets a once-over

in the press. Yeah, their blueprint was no secret, as you said, and was published in 2000. Wish the US press would take the time to review their global strategy and contrast that with the real time effect on our foreign policy, including the loss of life incurred.

Thks for the post.

ed 4 sp

[madfloridian]

4. Do a search on the terms, and there are more articles.

I know a lot of people don't like to download the pdf version, so I looked for an article.

For something that is no secret, the media is sure ignorant about it. Yep, they sure are.

[pinto]

6. PNAC is a pet "research" thing for me...very dangerous folks...here's

a good "opinion" piece, a little too cutting edge for mainstream press, I suppose, but thought provoking.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00161.htm

<snip>

The idea of a democratized Middle East, an important though illusory doctrine of the neocon ideology, was to begin with Iraq, which would act as a catalyst to the eventual domino effect expected throughout the region. That the idea of democracy in Iraq and the Arab world is but a hollow fallacy is of little importance to the neocon goals. Real democracy will never be allowed to prosper by Bush due to the threat of theological or fundamentalist elected mandates picked by the majority of the people. With the exponentially growing levels of anti-Americanism and anti-Israeli feelings running uncontrolled throughout the Muslim world, democracy will at the most mean the installation of cronies and puppets friendly to both the US and Israel under the guise of democracy. This plan assures American and Israeli control of the Middle East, forcing Arab nations to accept Israel s hegemony over the region. In reality, the mirage of democracy in the Middle East is but a propaganda tool being used to manipulate the population in the US into remaining passive believers of an otherwise surreptitious assault on world sovereignty.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00161.htm

[madfloridian]

11. From your link:

SNIP. "... unapologetic, idealistic, assertive and well funded. America must not only be the world's policeman or its sheriff, it must be its beacon and guide. Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power. These regions include Western Europe, East Asia, the territory of the former Soviet Union, and Southwest Asia. There are three additional aspects to this objective: First the U.S must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. Second, in the non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. Finally, we must maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."

Defense Planning Guidance developed in 1992 by Paul Wolfowitz, endorsed as PNAC ideology and now established Bush foreign policy.

Wolfowitz is a bastard.

[cliss]

5. You're right, MF.

The plans that our administration has for world domination is no secret. It never has been. The PNAC has been around for quite some time, and their plans and policies are readily available on the Internet. Just look up PNAC on Yahoo Search, and you will hit the motherlode.

I was confused about what was actually happening last February. It only takes an average intellience to see that there were some very odd things going on: Bush reappearing on the TV with his contorted, angry face, swiping his fist in the air and spit flying out of his mouth as he vowed revenge on Saddam.

He looked like a lunatic. I thought, "there must be something going on here". And there was. I found out about the PNAC's diabolical plans to wage war against 7 countries and have the entire world be a vassal state to the US.

None of this is a secret. Nor have they ever denied any of this. I picked up the Wall Street Journal about 3 months ago. There, on the front page, was a drawing of none other than George. In the second section was a long article about George and the PNAC.

No embarrassment. No regrets.

[acmavm]

7. No embarrassment? No regrets? No, no intelligence. Mama Bush

had to work with her sonny boy with flash cards until the seventh grade. Now KKKarl and Co. have to do the same.

He's just a low intellect failure who wanted to make it big. The neo-cons offered him the opportunity to front for them. He took it.

[madfloridian]

8. And look at the lousy job we are doing! I could cry.

No planning, no nothing. Just move in and take over a country with no planning, no nothing.

I posted it again because of all the folks here who are starting to actually defend this horrific invasion.

[Mari333]

9. for gods sake anyone who would defend this illegal war

should get back over to Free Republic and knuckledrag...
This has been a war for nothing...my stepson goes over to a war for nothing...Not a damned thing.
Cept to corporate whores and greed.

[madfloridian]

10. I know.

:grouphug:
Sometimes only a hug matters.
I get so angry, and I have no one there. It has made me more angry than I have ever been.

[mrdmk]

12. Lets outlaw the outlaws

Noam Chomsky does a speech from Columbia University about this situation. It is not pretty, but he does tear Paul Wolfowitz a new one, especially on matters about Asia.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/26/1447226

As a matter of speaking, in 1992 when the PNAC ideology was first proposed, the mainstream media did report it and the public showed their collective disdain towards this idea. There was so much backlash, that Mr. Bush Sr. threw it back to the authors that he had nothing to do with this and denounced it as a few misguided souls. The document went thought a 5-year revision to what it is today.

Also need to note that the intelligence agencies upon Mr. Bush Jr. coming to office, commented, “the crazies are back”. One can think of this what they will.

edit: typo

[madfloridian]

13. Newt Gingrich: Growing the Dictatorship in Iraq...will he never go away?

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Nimmo_Gingrich-Arab-Facade.htm

SNIP..."Yes, things are going haywire in Iraq -- but we can fix the problem, or so says one of the top slot neocons, Newt Gingrich.

See, according to Newt, the problem is Bush didn't install an Iraqi dictator immediately after the invasion. Instead he sent over Paul Bremer and his crew who took up residence in one of Saddam's palaces.

It looks bad, having all these white boys around calling the shots. Besides, they are really a bunch of screw-ups.

So, as Newt explains, Bush needs to get an Iraqi in there soon as possible. Put an Arab face on the neocon Master Plan for Zionist domination of the Middle East. Maybe that way it will be more palatable to the Iraqis. Maybe that way not so many Americans will die.

Well, chances are it won't be the least bit palatable to the Iraqis, but then the neocons are hardly concerned about what the Iraqis think. Hell, on most days, the Iraqis don't even have electricity..."END SNIP

[madfloridian]

14. I want to kick this to remind what our party got us into in Iraq.

I do not want it forgotten. I am tired of the folks here that I know were against this fiasco now suddenly using it to support their candidates. I want them to fully understand what is at stake.

[RBHam]

15. Goering would have loved the PNAC...

[madfloridian]

16. That statement gives me chills when I see it.

"it is a simple matter to drag the people along"

"all you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the patriots."

That sends chills up my spine.

[RBHam]

17. It's a simple matter...

Especially when you control the media...

[madfloridian]

18. I remember when they created that cartoon.

I was so impressed. It should have been all over the newspapers. It is one of the best I have seen. Thanks for reminding me of that.

[grannylib]

19. These creeps even had Bush chosen as the nominee well ahead of time

and had the money and machinery to make sure it happened; he was chosen, IMHO, precisley because he is not too bright and is very manipulable (sp?) and will do what the puppet masters make him do.
These people are truly evil personified.

[maggrwaggr]

20. this proves to me that the true enemy is the media

because they have not reported this. 99% of Americans have no idea what PNAC is. Yet PNAC runs the country.

WHAT THE FUCK!!!????

Nobody KNOWS who's ACTUALLY running the COUNTRY????

And we supposedly have a FREE PRESS???!!!

(choke, sputter, gag)

Seriously, I never thought this could happen in our country. We've been taken over by a secret bunch of goons and nobody knows it. The media has been taken over by them as well, and the people are as blind as the masses in "The Matrix".

I .... I ..... I .... simply am in shock. Every day.

[oasis]

21. Kick for draft age DUers.

[madfloridian]

22. Max Boot was on C-Span this morning. He is one of that group.

He was mostly certainly an arrogant little twirp. I think I have seen his name there. He has much as said we'd better watch what we say. I hate it when they do that.

[madfloridian]

23. Found the PNAC letter to Clinton in 1998.

A lot of the signatories are really used as talking heads, I see. Is this the William Schneider on CNN?

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

SNIP..."The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons....."

Signed:
Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick