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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 02:48 PM
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KIRO radio(Seattle) Hackworth reporting 22,000 casualties in Iraq.
Colonel David Hackworth on Dave Ross radio show in Seattle. (Respectable, imho)

American

3400+ combat.
18,000+ non-combat.
Via sources in Germany and the Pentagon.

Also reporting 50% attrition rate in the military by the end of the year.



Interesting when sites like this: http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx list total casualties at 2400.



Ramstein Airbase

Didn't put this in LBN due to it's speculative nature. Thought I'd pass it along. Pretty shocking, no? :shrug:
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 03:01 PM
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1. What is a non-combat casualty exactly?
Suicide, illness, but I can't really see so many? Is this common in any war?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 03:11 PM
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4. Yes to a point
and non combat also includes all car wrecks of which there have been way too many, or engine failures in choppers.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:51 PM
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9. The car crashed because a bomb in the road exploded.
Those too?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 03:06 PM
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2. I'd heard lower numbers, but still
they're all bad.

Bad for the kids who got hurt, bad for the kids who will be drafted to take their place. :^(
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 03:06 PM
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3. I think this # was posted a couple of days ago.
I saw it here somewhere. There must be a lot of sick and mentally exhausted people over there.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 03:44 PM
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5. I just reposted the 12/23 number of 22000 casualties, 473 dead
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:47 PM
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7. Missed that.
Thanks, papau.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:35 PM
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6. Read all about it in Hackworth's column: link
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 04:36 PM by mainer
He tells you how he arrived at the numbers. (I posted this a few days ago.)

"Almost daily we’re told that another American soldier has sacrificed life or limb in Iraq. For way too many of us – unless we have a white flag with a blue star in our window – these casualty reports have become as big a yawn as a TV forecast of the weather in Baghdad.



Even I – and I deal with that beleaguered land seven days a week – was staggered when a Pentagon source gave me a copy of a Nov. 30 dispatch showing that since George W. Bush unleashed the dogs of war, our armed forces have taken 14,000 casualties in Iraq – about the number of warriors in a line tank division.



We have the equivalent of five combat divisions plus support for a total of about 135,000 troops deployed in the Iraqi theater of operations, which means we’ve lost the equivalent of a fighting division since March. At least 10 percent of the total number of Joes and Jills available to the theater commander to fight or support the occupation effort have been evacuated back to the USA!



Lt. Col. Scott D. Ross of the U.S. military's Transportation Command told me that as of Dec. 23, his outfit had evacuated 3,255 battle-injured casualties and 18,717 non-battle injuries."




http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target%20Homepage.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=46&rnd=234.5296760311622
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:49 PM
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8. Must have missed it because of the eggnog.
Where's the press?
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