Can Illegal Aliens Be Drafted? Can They Volunteer?

[arwalden]

Could *this* be the new source of humans that Bush needs for getting the higher troop count he wants in Iraq?

For the new immigrants who need to proof only that they have a "job waiting for them" confirmation... will it actually be in the US military?

-- Allen

[Paranoid_Portlander]

1. Kick.

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[MattNC]

2. yep

http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm

[ElementaryPenguin]

3. Perfect for the Cheap Labor Party/PNAC Mob! Slave labor and SOLDIERS

It's a BFEE wet dream! Immigrant CANNON FODDER!! Endless wars conducted without loss of rich white kid life! They can bring back the Draft without being hurt politically (and help WalMart destroy the middle class!!)

:puke:

[ElementaryPenguin]

4. Kick!

:kick:

[Toots]

5. But then wouldn't the military need bilingual signs and instruction

Everything the Conservatives rail about would become a necessity. Instructors that speak Spanish as well as American. I can't say English because we are a long ways from that language. I probably should say Mexican also, because it really isn't true Spanish either. I think it is a good idea to allow Mexicans to enlist if they wish. It gives them a fairly short route to citizenship.

[BrotherBuzz]

9. They never complained about...

The School of the Americas (SOA), renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC), a combat training school for Latin American soldiers, located at Fort Benning, Georgia, that is taught entirely in Spanish. Heck, that might be a good source for many spanish speaking instructors.

[Cleita]

6. I think so Allen.

We are already conscripting aliens with a promise of a Green Card and citizenship if they serve in the military.

[oasis]

7. You got it right arwalden. PNAC armies of occupation for Syria and Iran.

www.newamericancentury.org

[DemoTex]

8. Ah-ha! It is still a MALE draft!

No mention of women in that draft bit. So relax girls. Pucker-up boys. The shit will soon hit the fan. Flee now, before it is too late. Unless you think duty in Iraq is up your alley.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. 30,000 active non-american citizens serving in the US military in Iraq

Other aliens, who enlisted before the single-term rule went into effect, are serving full careers as non-citizens in the US military. The Pentagon Does Not Track Thousands of Foreigners in U.S. Military

Soldiers For The Truth 2002

http://www.sftt.org/article06132002c.htmlBy DAVID WOOD

c.2002 Newhouse News Service

ELKRIDGE, Md. -- His heart remains at home deep in the heart of Africa, 12,000 miles away. But one day recently, Thierry Dany Osungs raised his right hand and in a steady voice swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, becoming one of the tens of thousands of citizens of other countries who enlist and serve in the U.S. military.

Non-citizen soldiers embody an old and honorable tradition of dual loyalty that dates back at least to the American Revolution. For generations of immigrants, military service has been a reliable means of earning a living as well as eventual citizenship.

But today, the services are enlisting growing numbers of non-citizens at a time when the United States is trying to tighten restrictions on immigration and aliens because of concerns about terrorism.

U.S. officials acknowledge there are serious weaknesses in the federal safeguards against criminal aliens or terrorists entering the country and obtaining the status of permanent resident that is required for military service. There are evident weaknesses as well in the procedures the Defense Department uses to check and approve potential enlistees.

Last year almost 8,000 foreigners were sworn into U.S. military service, a 50 percent increase from 1995 and about 4 percent of all those who signed up in 2001. The Pentagon does not keep count, but if all alien enlistees served a typical four-year term, there could be more than 30,000 on active military duty

[rman]

11. afaik they already can and do volunteer,

..being promised to get US citizenship once they complete military duty.
A significant percentage of soldiers in the US army is not American.

[sybylla]

12. They have to be found to be drafted.

The whole point of being here illegally is to avoid anyone officially knowing you are here. Unless illegal aliens register for the draft, they won't be drafted.

[GRClarkesq]

13. NO!

You can only join the armed forces if you have a green card, what is known as a "Lawful Permanent Resident". You cannot obtain a green card by joining the military. You do get an expedited route to citizenship instead of waiting for 3 years (married to USC) or 5 years for everyone else, from the date you become an LPR.

HOWEVER, almost all males, including illegals, are required to sign up for the draft. If you have a temporary visa, (student, visitor, H-1B worker etc) to stay in the US you are not required to sign up.
Illegals, green card holders, and regular old USCs must sign up for the draft.