On Lou Dobbs: "Real wages have declined for the last 30 years"!!!

[worldgonekrazy]

Finally somebody is saying it!

Granted, it is being used to slam illegal immigrants (not much of a connection there, IMO), but at least it is getting out there.

[cthrumatrix]

1. talking about corporations could offer low wages to all employees ...this

is clearly BS....where the hell are our representatives.

This is a gift to companies

[worldgonekrazy]

2. Yeah, their point was it would only make the trend worse

Bush will not get away with this. Frankly I am surprised he is even trying as he is risking a MAJOR revolt amongst the right wing ranks. They have been pretty unified to this point, but this is one of their major issues. It would almost be like Bush coming out in favor of abortion.

[papau]

22. real wages increase during the clinton years - did Lou mention this?

didn't think so.

[cthrumatrix]

3. Sheila jackson discussing the program.... making alot of good points

The guest worker program being discussed.

She is saying it's hard to deport these people. It's good to have these people contributing to the US economy ... but stopping the illegal flow of immigrants.

Lou points out that the program does nothing with security. Sheila doesn't support the bill. Wants a more substantial program.

[cthrumatrix]

6. she agrees how this does not protect american jobs

people would go nuts if they try to pass this bill and more jobs go away.

[grannylib]

4. About time. Wonder if it will get any attention from the candidates; they

should be push push pushing this issue.

[madrchsod]

5. everyone knows this that

has worked for the last 30 years. in 1974 i made 8+,1988-8+,1994-9+,2001-11+..gee lou, didn`t get as much in your last contract?

[tom_paine]

12. Yes, but to have said it on Corproate TV Pravda is something

Everybody knows lots of things. The Busheviks have been successful in managing Corporate TV Pravda through their contributors by effectively denying the megaphone to anyone who dared to say them.

Everyone knows it, but everyone also knows that, in Amerika, the only things that are "real" are those things we see on TV.

Lou made a big mistake in using his megaphone to disseminate the truth.

He may or may not hear about it THIS time.

[cthrumatrix]

13. the funny part is where are our representatives speaking out on this?

[tom_paine]

7. Lou is gonna be in trouble when his Masters hear he said that

He may get a call from Uncle Karl himself.

Of course, Lou has been such a trusty disseminator of Bushevik Pravda, maybe they'll just leave him alone to see if he'll be Politikally Inkorrect enough to do it again.

Don't violate the New Politikal Korrektness of Imperial Amerika. Dobbs may get one free pass, but if he keeps it up his job could be in peril.

[cthrumatrix]

8. Tom Tancredo (R-COL) 10-15 Mil here in the US illegally...and this has an

effect on the people...and wages. He says you can't do both!

Funny ..the repug is more against this then the dem. Jackson

[cthrumatrix]

10. wow - he calls this a "dagger to our heart".....and this from a repug

[_Jumper_]

15. Tancredo

Tancredo is obssesed with stopping immigration. Sometimes he is railing against it in an empty chamber. I wonder why he opposes it so vehemently...

[cthrumatrix]

16. it depresses wages soo much...it depresses the std of living

[Zomby Woof]

9. he is full of crap

He is purposely ignoring them going up for a few years under Clinton, the first such occurrence since 1974.

So yeah, 30 years, not counting the peak Clinton years.

Dobbs is a GOP donor and shill. Pay him no mind.

[doc03]

14. Lou Dobbs is right

How can anyone call themselves a Democrat and support illegal workers.
This is a perfect example of why the people in middle America
went to the Republican party. The Democrat party has deserted the
American worker. Here is an example, 30 years ago the meat packing industry was union and made decent wages $30 an hour in wages and benifits in todays dollar. Now these jobs are filled by illegal
workers being paid $8.00 to $9.00 an hour. Is the meat we buy today
any cheaper? This is simply a way to drive wages down in this country. If it's not please explain!

[Zomby Woof]

17. He lied or was wrong

Real wages went UP during most of the Clinton years, as part of the greatest economic expansion in our history. He said they have been declining every year for 30 years and that just isn't true.

Now, as far as your theories on why people have left the Democrats for the Republicans, they are interesting, but I can assure you, if any part of that is true, it was due to hot-button social conservative issues like abortion and guns - demagogic claptrap from the NRA and Christian Righ - and not because Republicans really started caring about working folks.

Don't even entertain for a second that the GOP, or Dobbs, cares about labor, bub. Wages have been driven down by corporations exporting jobs for cheaper wages abroad, and even Dobbs acknowledges that. Scapegoating immigrants is just more GOP racism in an insidious form.

[doc03]

19. I agree with all those reasons had some effect

I work a Union job in the steel industry, if you say Democrat the responce is they gave us NAFTA. Clinton would do nothing to stop
the illegal steel imports and Bush gave us 20 months of teriffs.

[doc03]

20. Illegal workers don't drive wages down also??????

[camero]

21. Even under Clinton

They still never attained the level of where they were in 1973. It's like saying the stock market has gained 50% but still hasn't reached the level of where it was in 2000.

The reason it didn't was partly because of NAFTA.

[papau]

23. correct - Cinton years saw real wages increase

:-)

[cthrumatrix]

11. CEO for US Chamber of Commerce on with Lou -- he's on fire again

He says that we don't have the demographics for the workers. Low fires back but the workers have low abilities. And the CEO acknowledges that 70% of the jobs don't require vast skills.

Lou is getting fired up again.

[cryofan]

18. Lou Dobbs for President!!

I am serious. He should ditch the GOP and run as a Dem