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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:02 AM
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I'm not patriotic! (Well, this guy says so...)
Anyone in IL listen to this jerk on the radio?

But I have just three words to this radio talk show host and wannabe minister.

EAT MY SHORTS!


Patriotism in the United States is loving God and country -- in that order -- and appreciating the blessing it is to live in freedom. Patriotism is acknowledging and showing our appreciation to God for the blessing of freedom by taking care of this country, participating fully in that freedom, and wholeheartedly, without reservation, supporting those who are willing to fight and die to protect those freedoms.

Let me be clear on this. I do not think you can fully be a true American patriot without first loving the God who blesses this nation. Sure, an atheist can fly a flag, pledge allegiance (without mentioning God), even fight and die for our country, all legitimate patriotic acts.

But, without recognizing the God who makes this country possible, can you fully be a patriot? Without God, there is no free United States, because freedom, even the freedom to not believe in Him, comes from and is ordained by God Himself.

Left to our own hearts, we would either endlessly seek the power to control people or we would acquiesce to being controlled. That’s the way it worked everywhere before God chose to bless the founders of this country with freedom and, with the exception of those nations who have tried to follow our model, that’s still the way it works today.

Like it or not, believe it or not, the difference between the United States and the rest of the world is God. To the extent that this remains a nation built on faith and one that exercises its faith, we will remain the great country we are.



http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=15456
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:11 AM
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1. About Scott Thomas (from link you provided)
(Scott Thomas hosts WYLL 1160 AM's afternoon drive home show from 3 to 5 PM each weekday. Thomas returned last year to radio after twenty years in the business arena. He is now studying to be a pastor. Scott regularly features Illinois Leader.com contributors on his show.)

Seems obvious what he's trying to do...

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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:13 AM
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2. I have only one things to say:
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 05:20 AM by Lucky Luciano
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:22 AM
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3. my fear is that the God this guy and Bush pray to is called Lucifer
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:26 AM
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4. Nationalism, not patriotism
We are the true patriots. The wingers with their blind devotion to the Bushies, no matter what heinous acts they commit (including outing a CIA agent for spite), are nationalists. My country, right or wrong. This is the difference. We are patriotic. We want what is best for our country...even if that means criticizing the administration. We're the good parents. We don't blindly accept our children's explanations and fail to administer discipline when needed. We demand accountability and morality. The Bushies and their adherents only demand blind obedience to war, covert actions, giveaways to corporate pals, and the destruction of our environment. They are the good Germans. Later they will say, "we had no idea!" just as the German people did as they were forced by the Allies to view the death camps. But they did know and they meekly followed like sheep. We have too many sheep in this country, following a shepherd motivated by hubris, stubborness, and an inability to comprehend complexity.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:29 AM
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5. Alright, so where do I report to turn myself in?
:eyes:

What a moran ...

My favorite line: "Left to our own hearts, we would either endlessly seek the power to control people or we would acquiesce to being controlled."

That pretty much sums up what so-called "Christians" like this guy think about god's gift of "free will." I think the technical term for this is "projection"--I'm an evil, greedy, selfish, power-hungry bastard, so you must be too.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:09 AM
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6. American exceptionalist bullshit
Any fool who says that God somehow chose America as a "special" nation is talking out of there ass. These are the same people who probably believe that God is a blond, blue eyed conservative Republican. Total crap.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:40 AM
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7. Here's a true patriot!
http://hometown.aol.com/stemars2/Americalandofthefree.html

We should all aspire to be like this family. BTW, they're also great with PhotoShop ... :snicker:

And check out their collection of the world's greatest literature.

http://continue.to/marsha

Surely even the most cynical among us will be uplifted by such gems of wisdom as this:

Jesus Loves Me

When Jesus looks at me, what does he really see.
Does he see his own reflection, or does he see me.
Does he see his likeness, the product of his hand. Or just a little christian who loves her Mom and Dad.
My name is little Hannah as you can plainly see. I love my Jesus and my Jesus loves me.

http://hometown.aol.com/angely851/hannah.html

WRoPWJI? (What rules of punctuation would Jesus ignore?
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:47 AM
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8. In other words, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, et. al. were not patriots.
Who woulda thunk it?

:shrug:
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:47 AM
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9. oh, come Judgement Day.....
...I'm sure he'll have a nice little surprise waiting for him when he finds out he's not going to go quite exactly where he thought he would.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:00 AM
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10. Fucking bible-thumping, jingoistic ass-hat!!!
I'm not a patriot and I don't want to be.

I love America, but if the true definition of 'patriot' is even in the same ballpark as that offered up by this fucking moranic pastor wanna-be, then I want no part of it!
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:08 AM
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11. We didn't get our freedom by asking for it in prayer to God.
We prayed for guidance then defied a despot and killed his troops until they gave up. We ran a successful guerilla campaign against a superior force with the help of Britain's enemy, the French. To think that our freedom was bestowed upon us by a loving Patriarch is ludicrous. We killed to get it.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:53 AM
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12. This SOB is a Nationalist, not a Patriot!
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 02:46 PM
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13. Good point.
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