Anyone interested in working on an anti-Nader website?

[amjsjc]

I've been drawing up content for a "Guide to voting for Ralph Nader" (which is basically designed to encourage Naderites in swing states to vote for Kerry). Unfortunately I don't know a damn thing about designing websites, so I'm looking for someone who could encode a few pages into html and get them online (that and maybe post an electoral map)... If anyone would be interested in helping reply to this message or e-mail me at [e-mail]. Thanks.

[skooooo]

1. You might get more milage....

...working on pro-Kerry projects. Just an idea...

[amjsjc]

5. Frankly I think it'd be about even either way...

And this is shorter to write...

[skooooo]

6. my bad

[CharlesGroce]

2. no no, do something more useful

convince John Kerry to adopt some concrete stances on the issues, and presumably, should John Kerry choose to represent you, the Nader problem solves itself.

Making fun of Nader is not going to win this election for the Democrats so come off it. And remember that it was the Supreme Court who gave the election to GWB, not Nader. More votes in Florida went uncounted than Nader won in 2000.

[amjsjc]

3. Nonsense

I have no intention of mocking Ralph (actually I think that's the problem with existing websites, but that's a digression...)

Working to limit Nader can't win Dems the election, but it can sure as hell stop him from costing us another race. And Nader did cost us the race. Nader got 97,000 votes in Fla and Bush won there by 500. You can say whatever you want, but there's no way you can massage that fact out of existence.

[cheezus]

4. you could set up a web app for "nader trading"

like there were in 2000.

[amjsjc]

7. While a good idea...

I've heard differing reports as to wether or not that's legal.

[Senior citizen]

8. Even excluding butterfly ballots,

Pat Buchanan got more than 500 votes in Florida. I don't understand how Nader can be to blame for the Buchanan votes. There were plenty of Libertarian votes in Florida--why blame Nader?

And, by the way, just so you'll know, * didn't "win." The recount was stopped, first by rioting Congresspukes, then by SCOTUS. Nader didn't fly the Congresspukes to Fla and have them beat on the doors to stop the recount. Nader didn't ask or tell SCOTUS to intervene. Had there been a proper recount, with appropriate challenges, it is quite likely that Gore would have had the same majority in Fla that he got from voters in the rest of the country.

Try reading, "Black Box Voting," by Bev Harris, and see if you can massage away the fact that Gore got "negative votes" (votes that were not cast for any other candidate, but simply were subtracted from Gore's vote tally) before you blame Nader for everything. Saying that Nader (rather than BBV, illegitimate voter purges, an undemocratic winner-take-all system that does not permit proportional or instant-runoff voting, and partisan SCOTUS interference) cost us the election, won't win you any Green Party votes, if that's what you really want.

[CharlesGroce]

9. how many thousands went uncounted?

It was the Supreme Court who decided it should stop. Not Nader. Nader was acting on his democratic rights by running. And if you don't think so, perhaps you should rethink your support of the consitution, which may require you read it.