NnnnnnnnnnOONAN! Noonan NnnnnOONAN!

[underpants]

[matcom]

1. Philly Cheesesteak Is Back On His Game

he will forever be known as the Great Chokemaster (sans 4 days in April)

[underpants]

2. *COUGH* *GASP **KackHack*

Damn if he had made the first one............ *COUGH* *GASP **KackHack*

Noonan DID make his putt.

[GOPisEvil]

3. I understand missing the par putt on 17...

...but how do you miss the come-backer for bogey? How?

Having said that, the USGA needs to insure a golf course that is at least playable. When commentators use the term "joke" to describe your course set-up, that's not good.

[matcom]

4. how did he miss it?

christ! he is Phil!

Phil, my legs are shaking and everyone is yellin' for me and i think i just threw up a little in my mouth though Mickelson.

what pissed me off was the comentators saying that NO GOLFER had enjoyed a following like this since Arnie.

ummmmmm hhheeelllooooooooo

T.I.G.E.R. anyone?

stupid dicks

[lazarus]

5. about those commentators

I have come to the conclusion that most sports commentators are like puppies. Every day is a new and wonderful thing to them, and they have no real memory of anything in the recent past.

Like your example, how else to explain the commentators' saying that the Pistons win was "finally" a demonstration that lack of ego, good teamwork, and defense can win a championship? Hello! Spurs, last year!

[GOPisEvil]

I heard another genius on the radio yesterday.

He said (talking about NASCAR - the things on sports radio at 10:00 on a Sunday morning) that aside from Tony Stewart no NASCAR driver had driven Indy Cars. Now, I'm a casual race fan at best, but even I know that Robby Gordon drove at the Indy 500 and the NASCAR event on the same day this year. I know he did it last year, too. This numbnuts has a show, on the radio (local, but still!), and he can't seem to recall that.

[underpants]

11. Sadder? Golf or NASCAR on the radio?

They seem to just read what they are given.

[GOPisEvil]

12. Sorta hit and miss.

Sometimes you get someone knowledgeable who has good contacts for interviews, and sometimes you get hacks who talk a good game to a producer.

The local golf show (on another station) is pretty good. The guy's been a golf writer for years, and gets big names on for interviews.

[underpants]

6. Double post

Damn now I know how Phil feels :bounce:

[underpants]

7. This "Arnold Palmer" stuff has got to stop

Palmer was a fan favorite because he took chances (OK Phil does that) but also because he it was a working-class hero typething. Phil is of the country club set.

I was thinking the same thing. Tiger WAS treated like a rockstar and they even made a commercial about his first Masters win-they had cardboard cutouts about 2 feet away from each other and he tried a shot splitting them.......he took off one of their heads- based on the insane gathering around his second shot on 18 that day.

[underpants]

9. Par meant about as much as Jessica Simpson's IQ.

Par meant about as much as Jessica Simpson's IQ. In truth, it may well have been higher.

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/usopen04/news/story?id=1825341

[GOPisEvil]

10. That is a GREAT line!

:bounce:

[CrownPrinceBandar]

13. I think its stupid to call the course conditions at Shinnecock........

a "joke". Other than the mysterious rolling of the green fiasco at the Redan hole, I thought the course played appropriately difficult. Its the US Open for chrissakes. It has played traditionally hard. NBC was showing a couple of incidences in the past where pros like Greg Norman and Ben Crenshaw had the same "hit up, roll down" result on #10 that Tiger did on Sat.

I thought it showed poor sportsmanship to hear pros I respected, like Jerry Kelly, bitching about how unfair the conditions and upkeep was. The fact that Goosen finished at -4 showed that the course COULD be played. The rest of those guys, who claimed preferential treatment for the later starts need to get used to the course kicking their ass sometimes. I thought it made for some of the most exciting golf I've ever watched.

[TreeHuggingLiberal]

14. I thought it was great.

It was the first time I can remember when every shot just seemed so intense. I thought it was the best that I had watched in years. Hell, I thought professionals should be able to play the hardest courses in the world.

[GOPisEvil]

15. Having a putt roll off the green is not golf.

This has been a problem for years with the USGA. A good shot should be rewarded, and you should be penalized for a bad shot. What the USGA had set up was that there was almost no chance for a reward. The golf course was almost all penalty. The wind never blew more than 15 MPH or so and almost have the field shot 80 or worse. Can you imagine if the wind was blowing like it was Saturday night? When the best round of the day is even par, something's wrong.

Also, how would you have liked to have been a group that played the 7th or 10th or 18th and had the grounds crew water the green AFTER you'd left. Talk about thanks for nothing...

[CrownPrinceBandar]

16. Yeah, that sucks....................

But these guys are pros, and as Tree-Hug said, these guys are supposed to be able to play the most challenging courses in the world. Yeah sometimes pros are going to shoot in the 80's. They're just going to have to learn to live with that.

If I can use Tiger as an example, look at his performance at #10 on Sat. He had to chip up to the hole THREE times before he was able to put it on the green. He looked like he was out there practicing that shot, and I think I remember Johnny Miller even saying something to that effect. That situation had -0- to do with course conditions.

GOP, I agree that any golfer should be rewarded for their good shots. However, the pros needed to be a little more precise on this course, there were balls holding the green. And, like I said in my original reply, the fact that Goosen finished under par showed that the course could be played. It was just extremely tough out there and I think the difficulty of the course conditions was overstated.

Agree to disagree??

[GOPisEvil]

17. He finished under par for the tournament.

But, he shot 71 (+1) on Sunday. The best score I saw was Appleby's (or was it Allenby's) 70. No one was under par on Sunday.

Some golfers shooting in the 80s is fine. 28 out of 66? Something's wrong.

Now you are correct on golfers not pulling off shots they should have; you deserve what you get if don't.

[ArkDem]

8. Is that the editoral writer for the WSJ?

[sus]

18. I thought this thread was going to be about Peggy Noonan.

Imagine my disappointment....

[Southsideirish]

19. Me too!